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uncomfortable about daughter-father relationship

aquatic's picture

My BF of 4 years has a 13 year old daughter. We do not live together. Because of each other family responsibilities, with see each the only a few days a months, sometimes only the odd evening. For 3 years, we did not introduce each other to kids as we did not want to rush things.
He is a very kind and committed father.

However, when we are together, his 13 year old daughter sits on his lap at every opportunity, comes from behind and embraces him, clings to his arms, takes his hands and does little twirling dances and so on. This will happen at home and out. It is, with no exaggeration, almost constant. They sometimes disappear in the bedroom for some time and remain behind closed doors for a 'tickle session'. She follows him around and seem very watchful of him not having a second by himself close to me. Watching TV cannot be done without laying on the couch together legs and arms entangled, cheek to cheek, her caressing him. She sometimes sleeps with him.

When she is at her mother's , there is frequent texting, calling, even skyping. He used to answer the phone even in the most intimate moments. That I finally had to put an end to, by threatening to leave next time this happened one more time. So when the phone ring while we are in bed, he still takes a look, announces 'it is my 13 year old calling However since it upsets you so much that I talk to her, I I will not answer her call. ..... :?

I feel very uncomfortable in their presence and find their conduct inappropriate and embarrassing. I simply don't know how to handle myself, where to look, while this goes on. It has gotten to the point when I am avoiding seeing him with his daughter. The few family members who have met them had the reaction: 'Ewe, what's going on here, and how can you stand this?'

I have kids of my own, one younger than her. we are affectionate and caring family, but nothing like that. Frankly, if I look around (nieces, nephews friends, no kids that age behaves in this manner.

I understand that the daughter is from a broken family and feels territorial with her father. That being introduced to a gf is traumatic. Which is why it took so long to bring me in the picture. We have made every effort to not make her feel uncomfortable about me: no signs of affection in front of her, never ever any sleeping over when she is staying with her father....I don't blame the daughter. She is a child. I blame him for encouraging this to happen and for not setting proper boundaries with his daughter, especially in my presence. I think he feels some sort of 'gratification' at having this young girl act this way. He will makes comments in regards to how close a relationship he has with his daughter and how much she enjoys being with him.

The times with myself, him and his daughter are quite rare as him and I usually spend time together when we do not have custody of our children. And as I wrote, I avoid being around when the daughter is there.
I am no sure what to do.
- address my discomfort again with him? I did once, he showed some understanding but concluded by saying 'I cannot change the way she is'.
- continue seing him without his daughter. This could become very difficult as he is putting a lot of pressure on the daughter to permanently live with him.
- ending the relationship as I find this situation simply not acceptable and unlikely to change.
- sucking it up and hopes it gets better?

I would love to hear from people with similar experiences!

aquatic's picture

Good idea, thanks. Me saying something makes me look ( and feel!) like a jealous woman competing with a 13 year old girl!

misSTEP's picture

Or say, "What are you going to do when she starts menstruating and her blood ends up all over your pants?" Guys don't like to think about that kind of stuff.

Shaman29's picture

"So when the phone ring while we are in bed, he still takes a look, announces 'it is my 13 year old calling However since it upsets you so much that I talk to her, I I will not answer her call."

This? This right here? Is why you should dump his dumb ass.

He completely fails to see how inappropriate, insensitive and rude it is to answer calls (or even check the phone and make snarky comments) when the two of you are in bed.

The "closed door tickle session"? You've been watching this for how long and not doing anything about it?

Break up and get your kids away from this man. You may want to consider speaking to CPS about the tickle sessions.

aquatic's picture

Thanks for the comment, Shaman. Really appreciate. Hard to break up. I also care for the man. Tickle sessions happened a couple of time since this year. I agree, gross.
The comments I got on the forum made me start to feel really icky about this whole situation.

aquatic's picture

Thanks for the comments.
Wow....I fully expected to be called 'jealous' and told to suck it up.....
I totally trust that there is anything sexual there...just a father treating the 13 year old like she is still two year old. But still unacceptable and inappropriate. Bizarre for sure. He just does not seem to 'see' it the way others do.

momof5_1969's picture

This makes me go EWWWWW. First thought I had was "kick him to the curb"! Gross. This is absolutely inappropriate and wrong. You're not jealous. Your "Mommy senses" are going off for a reason. I think I would put a hidden camera in there to make sure this child is safe, and if he is molesting her, then you turn him over to the police. Then GET OUT. Gross.

arjuna79's picture

"How you can stand to be intimate with a man who is that intimate with his own daughter !?!?! *shudder and gag*"

^^^THIS^^^ This is all wrong - for them - for you. No good will come of this for you. Call CPS and GO.

Disneyfan's picture

Why is it hard to break up with a pedophile????? You SUSPECT something is going on. Do you realize your butt can get into major trouble if someone reports this jerk and CPS finds you that you SUSPECTED something and did not do anything to protect that child?

What is with women putting their love for a man ahead of the safety and well being of children?????

Rags's picture

I am a man and your SOs behavior with his 13yo daughter even makes my skin crawl.

I think the 'if it looks like a dog, smells like a dog, and barks like a dog it must be a dog' adage is in order for you to seriously consider in this situation.

Move on to a man who does not set off so many alarm bells for you regarding his behavior with a pubescent girl.

IMHO of course.

Good luck.

lorlors's picture

Fuckin sick on 3 obvious counts:

1. The 'tickle sessions'
2. The fact the bedroom door is closed when this occurs
3. Answering the phone to her when you and him are in bed

I was close to my dad, love him to death as do a lot of daughters with their fathers but that is ok because he isn't a fuckin sicko!!!!! I certainly didn't lie in bed with him for 'tickle sessions' (all I am hearing is creepy pedo touching up) when I was 13 years old.

My SD is 12. Even thinking about that happening with my fiancé in my house is sick sick sicko.

aquatic's picture

Never, ever, did I expect the answers I got...I am stunned.
I fully expected the 'you are jealous of his relationship with daughter, he is an affectionate father, you can't control his parenting style, some families are just touchier than others, daughter does that because she feels threatened by her dad's relationship with you' and such..... but nothing like what I received!!!!
Wow. What an eye opener and kick in the but. I did feel totally grossed out deep inside, but had not admitted it to myself.
No, it is 'all out'. wow.

Disneyfan's picture

99% of the time when I read mini wife (I hate that term)blogs, I think what you were expecting to hear here. Many SMs complain about normal dad/daughter interactions because they resent the SKs.

Nothing you described is normal. Your boyfriend is sick and he deserves to have his ass kicked.

I don't know which dad is sicker~your boyfriend or the crazy dad who hand washes his 13 year old daughter's panties.

StepOnMe101's picture

My SD turns 11 in a few months. I am very uncomfortable with the father-daughter relationship in my home as well. SD lays all over my DH, plays with his hair, rubs his back, wants to lay on the opposite side of the couch as him and lay her legs on him...she recently got into the "tickling" thing and it is like she is obsessed with it. It disturbs me!!! I fear it will not stop and I will have a 13 year old doing this as you have now. I was never like that with my own Father and it just plain creeps me out!!! Especially when I see SD doing things with my DH that I DO!!! Sad

iwasindenial's picture

You said you aren't around them very much. If they do these things when you are there, imagine what happens when you aren't!

misSTEP's picture

At the very VERY minimum, he is teaching his daughter inappropriate boundaries and she will probably be a young mother.