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LizGrace65's picture

I see this word used a lot on this site. I understand that some people on here are dealing with a lot of dramatic, histrionic, and frustrating behavior from various people in their lives.

It's a little difficult for me to find the words to say what I want to say here.

And I'm not trying to put pressure on people to be hyper-aware, or hyper-PC.

But to be honest, I have bipolar disorder. (Maybe this should have gone on the "my truth" thread! LOL) So when I see the word, it catches my attention.

What I generally see, is that "bipolar" is generally assumed to be the direct equivalent of "crazy."

So I'd just like to point out that not all of us who have bipolar disorder act that way. (uhhh - anymore haha!) And not all people who act crazy have bipolar disorder (or any other mental illness).

Yes it's true that I got treatment at one point, and that it has given me a lot of tools to deal with the inevitable ups and downs. I have also chosen at this time not to medicate. A lot of people believe that someone who really has the disease can only behave normally if they are on medication. I can tell you that that's not necessarily the case.

The role of medication, for me, is this: if you can't handle your day to day life without excessive issues, or you feel like you want to die, then you need meds. Anything other than that is just your personality, so deal with it.

So, yeah, I'm bipolar. Or, excuse me, we are taught to say that "I *have* bipolar disorder" not "I *am* bipolar."

One in five people with bipolar are capable of holding down a full time job. I can do that. I do it well. And they don't know.

One in five people with bipolar disorder commits suicide.

I did try it. Multiple times. Hence the treatment. I'm pretty well past that, but suicidal thoughts will always be part of my life from time to time. I just need to know what to do when they happen. I used to be pretty sure I'd die by suicide eventually. Now I doubt it would ever come to that. (But fun how I'll never be really certain, right? Wink )

My point in telling you all this is so that you realize I'm speaking from experience.

There are a few things that bother me that other people might not notice when people talk about bipolar. One is when people who have it act like they have a free pass to do whatever they like. That's wrong. They need to take personal responsibility for doing what they need to do to be able to live among others without wreaking havoc.

Another is when people assume anyone with bipolar disorder by definition is an out of control freak and can't help themselves. That's not true either. There are those of us you'd never know about unless we told you. We've learned through ugly experience and repeated mistakes to keep whatever struggles we have private - whatever the cost - due to lack of understanding and of course personal embarrassment.

Another is when people assume anyone who behaves like a crazy ass freak has bipolar disorder or some other mental illness. There are a lot of reasons people behave that way - a chemical imbalance or personality disorder is not a prerequisite for disruptive, dramatic, histrionic, self centered behavior.

It's hard to put into words what my goal is in finally putting this in writing (I've thought of it many times before - that word is all over this site!).

I guess it's that I feel this is a strong community with many good people in it, and I trust there are at least some people here who would appreciate the information I have due to my unique perspective, and whose own perspective might be a tiny bit broader for reading it.

So there you go. Smile

Happy Mischief Night

L

Comments

Most Evil's picture

Oh wow - I really did not know many of these things! So sorry if I have offended you.

The people I know who have it ALWAYS take their medication, so I have not actually seen any episodes in them. I was under the impression medication was a must.

It is great you have reached the point of 'applying your own brakes', so to speak!! I imagine it is a very difficult thing to live with.

I lean more towards depression myself! lol HUGS

Last-Wife's picture

Thank you for your side. I used the word "bipolar" the other day, I admit. The BM I deal with has a diagnosed case of bipolar disorder. Hers is under control, so to speak, as long as she is seeking treatment. Our family physician has informed us the skids have the possibility of it as well, due to genetics. Over time, Princess has shown many of these symptoms. In fact her phone call today could be an upswing, I'm not sure... Your honesty is appreciated.

LizGrace65's picture

Thanks for the responses. Nobody has actually upset me at all - people are here to vent, and some of these women are seriously nuts! I haven't gotten this far without developing resilience and a sense of humor.

Last-Wife - it does appear to be genetic, and it's good to keep an eye on the kids. I have a niece who is very like me. I can tell you that frustration in general is a very bad thing for bipolar kids and teens, and validation in general is a very good thing - but beyond that, it's very individual. Consistent and clear boundaries applied *with* affection, as well as just physically being available without doing anything direct, can be helpful. Good luck. Smile

L

happymostly's picture

Thank you for talking about it! One of my aunts who I am close with is bi-polar and she is not someone who is 'out of wack' or any of those things alot of people say when they call someone bi-polar. Thanks for sharing!

mamacat_30's picture

Thanks Liz, I have been thinking of writing something like this myself. I was first diagnosed when I was 14 and have been on and off meds for years. Not to turn this into a bipolar support group, but do you feel that it has been easier with out meds as you've gotten older? I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 31 and not sure if it's actually gotten easier or if I am just able to manage it better from the last 16 years of experience. I wouldn't say I've ever been offended by comments on this site, but it's still good info for everyone! Smile

Chavez's picture

Many years back I was diagnosed bipolar II as well and am now considered 'recovered'. I haven't had an upswing in about 8 years now. I do take antidepressants for maintenance but it's a small dose and rarely ever have to adjust things now. Anyway what I'm getting at is I think that some can 'outgrow' it as that seems to be what happened with me.

LizGrace65's picture

I don't know about "outgrowing" it per se - but I do think that it's probably easier to manage with maturity. So in cases where a person does in fact learn and grow throughout their life (we know not everybody does!), particularly in self-knowledge, it could be less and less of an issue.

I can tell you I wasn't even diagnosed properly until I was in my early 30s, even though my first overdose was in high school. That episode was fairly hushed up despite a short hospitalization. Afterwards, although I was always "volatile", I stayed out of really serious trouble for quite some time. I managed to handle college, marriage, divorce, getting back into the job market - a whole lot of things, despite being a raging emotional mess. It took until I was 32 to get into a situation I simply couldn't deal with. And then all hell broke loose. (Note - there was a skid and a BM involved. haha!)

I was having a very hard time. I actually did seek treatment - for depression. Makes sense - I was in a depressive phase. The doctor put me on antidepressants, which was very, very bad in my case (I hear it's a common "mistake"). I thought I was doing the right thing by taking the meds, but they were sending me raging manic little by little.

Within six months of going on them I had a total breakdown - two serious overdoses within a week of each other (left the hospital after the first one and did it again in less than 48 hours). The second time I woke up days later in the ICU and was told I had so much liver damage I could easily still die - and I didn't care at all.

I fought for so long to handle everything on my own. I was just so tired. I knew I could fix all the issues in my life. I was just too tired to do it.

So I don't really deserve much credit for seeking help - it was kind of thrust upon me by the scale of my final breakdown. Smile

But I do take credit for deciding it was time to do things differently, at some point there sitting in the rubble. And although it took a few false starts, I chose a new path and I've stayed on it. And that does get easier with age, i.e., experience and practice.

That's the thing - it's all about whether you take responsibility for yourself. Nobody can fix anybody with a problem - mental or otherwise. The person has to decide for themselves that things are going to change. And until that happens, they'll keep falling in the same hole over and over (metaphorically speaking).

I think the older you get, the more likely it is that you're willing and able to make that decision, and capable of sticking with it and making it happen.

I have my moments now. But a tiny bit of my brain stays apart now and recognizes them for what they are. So I don't get lost in them. I know they'll pass. That perspective is what makes it possible to ride out the storms - and that perspective is something that comes with age (and effort of course).

So do we actually change chemically? Or is it a perspective shift? At the end of the day, the result is the same: we're better off, and it's easier to get there.

I don't think I'll worry too much about what's behind it, I'll just knock on wood that it happened Wink

L

LizGrace65's picture

Thanks for your story as well. I'm glad you found what works for you. These are issues we may not talk about very much - for me it's nice to know others who can relate are out there.

L