If I'd Been Standing Up...
I would have fallen over. I just got off the phone with my SO and he just let it all out. Apparently he's having a rough week and he's had enough of the bullshit from the sociopaths.
Apparently, it doesn't matter that I've been gone for 6 weeks. They've continued to attempt to badmouth me to SO at every turn. He told me he's been shutting them down before they get too far, but today he lost his shit when the 16 year old started going on and on about what a bitch I am, what a horrible dad he is, and how SO chose me over them. (I'd like to point out that, had SO actually chosen me over them, they would no longer be living in the house...) I don't know details, since SO was so wound up that he could barely talk, but the gist of it is that he told his 16 year old to STFU and finally (FINALLY!) set the record straight about why he wasn't around as much as he was supposed to be when they were younger.
(For the record, he wasn't around because his CS was $250 per paycheck and, if he only worked 40 hours, he had $125 to live on each week. Which is fine if you don't have rent or need to eat or get gas. So, in order to survive, he worked 7 days a week, 16 hour days, so he could make that CS payment and not be in default and still have a roof over his head. As it is, for the first 6 months after he split from BM1, he was living in his car and showering at his brother's. And the reason his kids didn't know this is because he swore that he would never say anything that could be construed as badmouthing their mother. So these shitheads have been treating him like shit and throwing it in his face that he's a "bad father" because they had no idea what the truth was.)
He also set the record straight about the CS. The kids, being kids at the time, had no idea that their mother was getting CS. They thought she was this superhero mom who worked so hard to provide for them and they've had her on a pedestal for years because of it. Even though BM1 was abusive both emotionally and physically to them.
SO set the 16 year old straight today, right or wrong. I think he did the right thing. I know him well enough to know that, even in his anger, he told his son this information in the most respectful way possible, without ever calling her names or badmouthing her. These kids are old enough to know what really happened, and perhaps now SO will start getting the respect he deserves from them. He is the hardest working man I've ever met, working 6 days a week at work in sweltering heat so that he can give these kids what they want. (OH! And he told his kid that he was spoiled and that it ended today. That he didn't have any responsibility to give him anything other than a roof over his head, 3 squares and clothes on his back. Hallelujah!)
I think, for me, what really made me almost cry was his defense of me. I'm 800 miles from home and I miss him so much and this separation has sucked for both of us. And the most important thing he said today (according to him, not me), was that, even though I wasn't there and had no obligation to provide anything to them, I still help out. He told them that the day before I left, to make sure they all were taken care of, I dropped $300 on groceries. He told them that I've been paying bills from Georgia, even though I'm not there using the cable or the water or the electric. And he told them that their vocal disrespect of me ended today. He didn't want to hear anymore of it.
:jawdrop:
And he told his 14 year old daughter that he knew he was in the right relationship because she wasn't bitching. Apparently, she did nothing but complain about his other exes.
It was a very eventful 15 minute phone call...
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Congratulations!!!!!
Congratulations!!!!!
Thanks! SO also said, "I
Thanks! SO also said, "I don't know if it's because you're gone and I'm finally seeing all this bullshit..."
Well, duh, honey. I'm not there to be the buffer between you and their crap. You're finally seeing it.
I don't even feel like saying, "I told you so," because I know how much it sucks but this is such great validation.
I agree. The buffer is gone
I agree. The buffer is gone and he gets it... at last.
Well, they live there,
Well, they live there, so...He has told them that they can just live in their rooms if they can't respect everyone in the house. It's a start...
Wow he did a fantastic job
Wow he did a fantastic job and you are above and beyond supportive!!! What a relief for you both.
It was a relief. He made some
It was a relief. He made some comment about how he hadn't wanted to lay it all on me. I told him that I NEEDED to hear these things. I needed to hear that he was taking a stand. I'm so proud of him
That's great news! Now
That's great news! Now finally he can get the respect he deserves. Honestly, he should have told them years ago but I can respect why he chose to wait.
I hope that everyone can move forward in a positive direction as a family
I hope they can move forward.
I hope they can move forward. While I consider the younger two part of my family, the older two kids are just...there. But hopefully they can have a good relationship with their Dad.
I'm glad he was able to "set
I'm glad he was able to "set the record straight" in a respectful way, and hopefully it'll help him open up a civilized dialogue with these kids. You said his oldest boys are budding psychopaths. If the oldest lives with him, he can tell him that he has to agree to get counseling/psychological help or pack his stuff and leave. If the other one is still a minor, he may be able to make him get counseling.
I'm glad he will not tolerate their disrespect of you any longer. Hopefully he will teach them how and encourage them to talk with you civilly if they have a problem with you and also how to do the same with him. Hopefully he will tell them point blank that they can always come to him for help, advice, love, support and assistance, but they cannot treat you like crap. What happened to the oldest boys is so sad. Hopefully they can and will seek help before it is truly too late.
And I think SO needs to ask the oldest boys how they'd feel if he treated their GFs/SOs/DWs the way they've treated you. Maybe that'll make them think hard.
The oldest does live with us.
The oldest does live with us. While SO has realized that their behavior is reprehensible, he is still far from admitting that the oldest has problems that he can't solve. That will come in time.
As for the 16 year old? In PA, it is the law - and the stupidest law ever, IMO - that at 16, he is able to make his own decisions about his medical treatment. That being said, he has been attending counseling with both a therapist and a psychiatrist, and he was put on both ADD meds and an anti-psychotic. He stopped taking the anti-psychotic because he convinced himself he didn't need it. And his doctor okayed this, because the 16 year old convinced HIM that everything was okay and he didn't need the med. The problem is, when he's off it, he can't control himself. But since his dad has no legal right to control his medical care, there is little to be done unless he goes completely off the rails and there are grounds to have him involuntarily committed.
I think they could both do with some intense therapy (not this once a month thing that insurance companies call treatment). They are damaged and have issues they don't know how to deal with. And it does honestly hurt me to see them hurting.
(They may hate me, but I'm still going to be there for them. They've had too many people write them off and walk away, and I'm not going to be another one of them.)
I am SO proud of him. I hope
I am SO proud of him. I hope things start to change for the better, too. For the first time, I'm hopeful that maybe it won't be so awkward and horrible when I get home in October.
I hope it doesn't make things worse. I'm hopeful, but cautious. These kids are almost-sociopaths, after all, and they have a tendency to turn even the most positive action negative.