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W.T.H.I.G.O's picture

Hello there. I am a childless woman, living with the man I've been with for the last 3 years. He has a DD(?) of 9yrs and we just do not get along...

A little background:

Me and my SO have known each other pretty much all of my life. Hes a few years older than I, which works out pretty well for us. We have great communication and respect for each other, usually able to resolve issues fairly quick. We are never angry with each other longer than a day or so. We dont like to keep tension. Before me it was just SO and his DD. Her mom, his ex, would come back once in a while when she needed something from him and then she would leave for another man again. So pretty much SO and his DD were by themselves majority of the time before he started dating me.

We've been together for 3 years now, and living together for the last 2. About 6 months into our relationship he decided he was ready to introduce me to his DD, whom at the time was 7. At first things were great. Her and I got along so well, we spent alot of days together, since at the time I worked nights and he worked days. (He always said he didnt want her at her moms because if she was here he knew she was safe) I understood. We would play dress up, dolls, do each others hair, games, play dates with my nieces and nephews, the list goes on and on.

At the time alot of his family was telling me that I needed to watch out for her. That shes really sweet at first but as soon as I'd have to tell her no the demon would arise. I just didnt see it. She was so sweet, how could someone so sweet be so mean? At that point I didnt know much about SO ex. Apparently she is a drug addict with a severe attitude problem. She used to beat up on my SO for him not doing what she wanted when she wanted... that's abundantly clear now. There have been many times that I've listen to his ex call and consistantly scream at him over crazy things. Anything from not giving her 10 dollars for her other kid (who is not SO child) while his is with us, to how he has no right to his own daughter because ex said so. Alot of these rants came out of nowhere for no reason at all. She just would get mad at whatever happened over there and would call him to tell at him. Even threatening to come over and assault him and me because she just felt like it. It was exhausting. That went on for the first year and a half. 

Well, fast forward a few months. There was a day that SO was at work, it was summer time so she was here. We had her all but one night a week. (There is no custody agreement, he didnt want to go to court.) She started to grab dishes out of the kitchen, brand new, and started filling them with white school glue, dirt, stickers and whatever else she could find. She called it an "experiment" and I told her that we didnt need to do that. She shot me this ungodly look, that became the way she looked at me from that day on. She argued with me that she can do what she wants too and her dad said so. I insisted it wasn't happening and picked it all up. 

From that moment forward it just went down hill. A little while after I stopped the glue disaster from happening she decided she was gonna ride a box down our stairs. Which at the time had no railing due to renovation. I stopped that also, as calm as I could and explained that she could seriously hurt herself if she were to do it. She looked at me and told me "you're just my babysitter, I don't have to listen to you." And started back up the steps. Right about that moment her Dad came in for lunch. He was able to stop her, threw out the box and told her that she needed to calm down. Stair surfing isnt safe. She agreed and it was peaceful... until he left again. 

Once he was at the door she started to absolutely destroy the house. Toys everywhere, coffee table overturned, a glitter bomb somehow exploded in the dining room, and so so so much more. I tried to stop her and asked her to help me clean it back up to which she replied "that's YOUR job. You're the maid here. This is my house, I'm the queen, daddy's the king and you are the servant. So get cleaning servent" that just about floored me, but I also understood that at that age, saying something like that was said by someone else to her. I let it slide and proceeded to clean up the house. For the rest of the day she would find ways to just push my buttons and I just kept letting it ride. When her dad got home I let him know what happened, but magically she was back to the sweetheart she was before. Everyday after that, when he left my name became "maid". I told SO about it and ge said it's just a kid thing, it would pass. This type of thing went on for months until I just couldn't take it anymore and told him I couldn't watch her anymore... which maybe some of you know, just didnt happen. 

That was just the first few months with MINOR details... things just got worse and worse from there. A couple months into the fits, she was 7 at that point, she was up at 2 in the morning. She kept pulling her mattress off her bed. Her dad had caught her twice, put it back and told her to quit and go to bed. That she wasn't sleeping on the floor. She waited until he fell asleep again, and I probably shouldn't of stepped in from what I know now, she pulled it off again. I went in and calming told her "your dad said you need to keep your bed up and get some sleep, why dont we do that". She got up and stepped aside for me to help her get it back up and as soon as I stood up from picking it up she punched me as hard as she could, square in the kidney. I doubled over in pain. I just walked out and left her where she was. I didnt want her to see me cry. I let her dad know in the morning and he handled it. She apologized and was nice for a minute until her dad was satisfied. Once he left the room though, she told me that's how she was raised to handle people she dont like... I asked why she didnt like me so much now and she told me because I ruin her life.... at 7. I know theres jealousy there, the fact that I came in and messed up her and her dads routine, but goodness.

Now, fast forward about another 2 years and here we are. I dont keep her anymore unless I'm absolutely forced, because when I do it becomes an all out war over the absolute smallest things. If we tell her we aren't going to do anything that day because we would like a day to rest she loses her mind. Yesterday she got up and asked if we were doing anything, which unfortunately was a no. She lost her mind. She started in about how we never do anything (night before last, the night before all this, we had a small bonfire with a couple family members for easter. Whole time she was making smart comments and talking mess about me to cousins) and how I ruin her life because we dont do anything when I'm around, which then switched too her and her dad cant do anything alone because I'm always with them. Her dad's the one that said we werent doing anything. Nowadays I work full time, wednesday through sunday, 12pm to 9pm. We only have her weekends so aside of a couple hours in the morning and the 1 before I go to bed at night, her and her dad have their entire weekend to themselves without me. They spend more time together than him and I do anymore. Which is fine, they should. But anytime I'm actually around to be apart of anything she loses her mind.

In the midst of the "we aren't doing too much today" drama she starts telling me that she wants me to die. She wishes I would just kill myself or that someone would kill me. I've got videos on my phone just incase. She told me she wants me to hang myself, get run over by a car, or just jump off a cliff. She told me I'm a piece of crap, piece of trash, ugly, whatever else she could come up with. All because he said we werent doing anything and no amount of her throwing a tantrum would make us. They are gone all weekend every weekend. SO just wanted a day to rest. And somehow it was my fault. This is just a scratch on the surface... I've got 2 and a half years worth of craziness with this one.  

SO is at a loss too. He does what he can to correct and mediate behavior but nothing works. If it does, she will chill out for a second and then be right back to it. 

This new years, she went over to SO moms house and tried to recruit her and SO sister to get rid of me. She told them that I beat her, yell at her, keep her dad from her and that I'm trying to make him not love her. None of that is true. Not in the least bit. They tried to talk to her about it but nothing got through. So she called her dad and told him if I didnt leave she was never coming back. Which she tells him often about anything she wants him to do. She wants ice cream? Get her ice cream or shes never coming back. She wants a friend to stay over? The friend stays or shes never coming back. She want him to kiss her feet? Kiss her feet or she never coming back. He used to give in. Not anymore. She doesnt stay away from here for anything. Like clock work she keeps coming back. He got tired of it one day a whole back and told her "yeah? Well then I guess you're not coming back." And hung up. The next day she was here and she was nice as could be. Next time she came she was right back to the bossing and harassing. 

If I detailed all 3 years for you I'd have 90 pages for you guys. Hopefully as time goes on I can give you more insight. It just never ends. I love my SO and he loves me. We are awesome together. The ONLY issue we have is the youngster. I try and compromise with him and her so that we can all get together sometimes. Sometimes it's just for him. Sometimes I've had enough and just can't fit my own sanity. Sometimes he is ok with me checking out so that we can keep the peace.  I just dont know what to do. I dont want to leave and neither does he. 

Please feel free to ask questions so I can clarify. I know this is partially cryptic since I'm not able to go into much detail without crashing the site lol. I need all advice and help I can get!

ldvilen's picture

“The ONLY issue we have is the youngster.”  I’m afraid not.  A youngster is a youngster and is being molded by the adults around her, particularly mom and dad.  My read is that neither you nor the youngster, per se, are really that guilty of anything.  I’m saying this as a bioless SM, like yourself.

First of all, from what you stated above, it appears that BM is more than likely poisoning the well against you and probably her ex-husband too.  This line, for example, “You're just my babysitter; I don't have to listen to you,” reeks of something a BM might say to her child, purposeful, in an attempt to make her love her more and her father (and esp. father’s GF) less.  Look up Parenteral Alienation Syndrome.  This can be anything from BM rolling her eyes whenever bio-dad’s name is mentioned, to BM making up out-and-out crimes to keep her child from dad.  It can happen with dads going after moms too, of course. 

You made this comment too, “She (SD) punched me as hard as she could, square in the kidney.”  Followed by: “That's how she was raised to handle people she don’t like.”  So, as evil as some of this may sound from SD, she is more than likely just picking things up from BM (and bio-dad, I’ll get to that) and rolling with it.  It does not excuse her behavior, however.

What is your DH/ BF doing about this?  It sounds like at least initially he was the typical patsy.  You mentioned, “She (SD) argued with me that she can do what she wants too and her dad said so.”  You also stated, “Every day after that, when he left my name became "maid". I told SO about it and he said it's just a kid thing; it would pass.”  Later, you mentioned in the midst of some sort of drama, “She starts telling me that she wants me to die. She wishes I would just kill myself or that someone would kill me.”

So, while all of this was going on the last couple of years, what did your DH/ BF do about it?  It sounds like he pretty much gave into her and put up with it and expected you to do the same.  This let her know for a good couple of years that you were her competition.  It let her know that she ruled the household and not you.  It let her know that her BM was right—that you were just her babysitter or maid—and that she didn’t have to listen to you.  Her father unknownly? backed her up, apparently, on all of this.

Now, it appears your SO “may have” and that is a big “may have” finally gotten the cajones to start to deal with some of these issues.  You mentioned, “SO is at a loss too. He does what he can to correct and mediate behavior but nothing works.”  What has he done?  He was a patsy, lackadaisical parent and now he thinks a snap, harsh comment or two aimed at her is going to correct her behavior?  Has he sat down and talked to her calmly and explained things to her?  Told her he loves her?  Over and over ‘til she gets it?

I’m sure this probably isn’t what you want to hear, but it is very important you realize that your SD herself is not the only issue.  Manipulative, controlling BM and weaker, enabling DH = step hell.  DH cannot go from one extreme to the other with his child, go from patsy to whip-snapper and not expect his child to be confused.  She sounds very confused to me.  HOWEVER, it is not your job to correct the mistakes mom and dad have made.  They have to own that.  You were correct to stop babysitting their child, since apparently neither one of them had the ability to teach their young daughter respect for herself or for others.

You are dad’s GF or SO and your SD is dad’s child.  These are two different kinds of roles, two different kinds of love.  No sort of competition should be going on between you two.  But, unfortunately, both mom and dad set the both of you up for it.  Dad will have to really man up to correct this one, because it sounds like BM is a nutcase.  Just remember: Manipulative, controlling BM and weaker, enabling DH = step hell.  And, it is rarely, if ever, a child’s fault when they hate SM.  I’ll put the burden on any SK’s shoulder when s/he is an adult.  However, when a child hates SM, it is usually because both BM and bio-dad have either accidentally, on purpose, or accidentally on purpose set it up that way.  And in your case, they have.  BM was/ is into parenteral alienation and bio-dad just sat there and let(s) his daughter act out with little to no repercussions.   Family counseling. 

W.T.H.I.G.O's picture

I've thought from the beginning that her mother is grooming all this. At the same time though I'm not the only person she treats like that. I just get the worst of it. Its summed up to jealousy yet it doesnt matter if I give them time, talk to her, do things with her, ignore her and withdrawal, leave or not, it's still a problem.

SO has tried MANY different things. And dont get me wrong, hes a HUGE pushover when it comes to her. Disneyland dad sums it up pretty well. The main one he goes for is going off on their own and he has a long talk with her. He tells her he loves her often. Alot more than any other person in his life. Hes taken things away, grounded, taken her back to her moms, talked to her, lost patience and yelled at her, told her he'd never pick her up again. VERY few times hes resorted to a swift butt spank but then immediately feels guilty and showers her with attention and whatever else she wants. Here lately hes just been taking her back to her mom because that's the only thing that stops it completely. The only thing I've seen work is taking the xbox, tablet, phone and whatever else shes into at the moment and then not picking her up when she calls. And she calls often. We have her currently. Shes going back here after a couple hours, atleast I hope. 

I hope I can convince him to go through counseling. I've tried in the past but he down played it. Here recently, after recordings on my cell phone ive got of her and his mom calling to tell him the bs SD has told her, that he knows is bs, hes been more open to the idea.

SteppedOut's picture

Yea, love would not be enough to keep me aound that psychopath. 

If I was you, I would move on. That level of chaos is a no go for me. Have you thought of livimg separate and just dating? 

W.T.H.I.G.O's picture

Its definitely crossed my mind. Hes told me it wont last forever but I'm afraid it will. Kids are for life. He swears things will get better though. Hes actively started to work with her. He still tends to fall to her every little whim, but when she acts up he jumps to correct her now. When he sees it anyway. 

Thefatherismyfamily's picture

Sorry you are having to deal with such a difficult stepchild. The first mistake you made was agreeing to watch the child on your own. That's called Responsibility without Authority. Change that first and hopefully things will get better. The next thing you need to do is to have very clear boundaries with the girl. Explain very clearly to her how you expect to be spoken to/treated. The moment she crosses those boundaries address it with her right away, and don't wait for the father to do it. The third thing is, do not let her dictate how you will use your time, emotions, ane energy. You focus on yourself, and if there is left over time and energy, maybe, just maybe you'll spend a little on her. Do not just go along with what she wants. State very clearly, that's nice you'd like to do that but I prefer to....or that's nice you like that color, but I'm going to pic this color. She is not the center of your life.  Then, ignore her stupid lies that she tells the family about you. Go about your business as though you never heard them. She needs to know she has no impact on your life. And, never ever trust her enough to have a genuine conversation with her. Do not let your guard down. She can never be trusted. Show her who's queen.

W.T.H.I.G.O's picture

I love this response. I've stepped out when it comes to her. I won't go anywhere or do anything with her now. This last weekend was the straw that broke the camel's back. A mighty big straw. I will not let an entitled 9 year old run my entire life. She wont have control of me like she does others. This is backfire on me too though. If I do stuff with them I'm in the way. If I dont I'm not involved enough. Mind you that's the 9 year olds words. Cant win for lose. So I'm not doing anything but what I want from now on.

ldvilen's picture

These are not the words of a 9 YO, “If I do stuff with them I'm in the way. If I dont I'm not involved enough.”  That is pretty much how society as a whole views SMs.  AND, you are correct with this, “I'm not doing anything but what I want from now on.”  SMs have to do what works for them because no matter what they do for anyone else, other than maybe their DH, it is never right.  Never.  Plus, for some reason, people who are not step-parents always seem to think they know more about how to be a SP, and have no problem telling tenured step-parents over and over what they are doing wrong.  Chalk it all up to ignorance on their part (because it is), and do what works for you.

shamds's picture

when she goes psycho and calls you the maid/servant and whatever psychotic meltdown you send the video to her dad and say “handle this now!!”

Left out mama's picture

Shamds you nailed it! 
this kid may very well have some type of disorder like oppositional defiance disorder, but it also STRONGLY sounds like she continues this behavior because she is allowed to. 

shamds's picture

Full blown psycho mode or likely is in denial.

he might see it differently on a nannycam video.

i was lucky that my ss who was 17.5 was dumb enough to say to his uncle that it was my job as a woman to care for the baby solely and he even told his dad that it was my job to do housework.

i snapped at 5 weeks post having my daughter, that ss was a lazy piece of shit treating me like his bitchmaid and he told his dad i should clean after him because i was a woman and a sahm.

oh boy did my husband snap right back at him and told him it was not my job to clean up after lazy people who made their mess and that i had more important things to do and being a bitch maid servant wasn’t one of them.

i’m lucky because in my case even when hubby has moments of denial, he trusts me when i tell him what’s actually been happening behind his back because he doesn’t trust his kids with exwife as they are all replicas of her...

Rags's picture

With rare exception, the cause of this kind of crap is idiot parens who had no business breeding in the first place.

Grrrrr!

IMHO of course.

W.T.H.I.G.O's picture

I tend to agree. If he knew how his ex was he shouldn't laid with her to end up with a kid. He agrees, says if given the chance he'd of had SD with someone else. Cant fix stupid I guess

simifan's picture

 

It sounds like parental alienation from BM but your real problem is your SO. What is he doing to correct her? protect you?  Teaching her to respect adults? What behavioral services did he contact? She's threatening you - were the police contacted? 

Your SO is not protecting you - get out now. 

 

hereiam's picture

Now, fast forward about another 2 years and here we are.

Good Lord, why? Why are you still there?

W.T.H.I.G.O's picture

I know this is the typical answer but I do love him. That demon is the absolute biggest problem we have. We can work through any and everything without too much incident and are better for it later. Hes my best friend and I his. He feels the same way, I think he feels guilty. Like hes betraying her sometimes. When shes not here it's absolutely amazing. As soon as she hits the doorway though theres like a darkness that hits. I get shes his daughter, and he loves her and has an obligation to her but sometimes even he just doesnt wanna mess with her. BUT he made her, physically and otherwise, he has to deal with her. That doesn't mean I do

Rags's picture

Does your DH have a visitation CO. If not, he needs to get his ass to court pronto.  Does your DH have actual balls or are they in the little girls back pack?  Apparently they can be found in the back pack.

As for the demon spawn.  You are the adult. You have lived the ages she has and know what goes through a kids mind. So go truly evil SP on her toxic little ass.

When she starts in on her hopes that you die crap tell her that it is too bad that abortion cannot be applied retroactively to a toxic sex trophy after it is born or she would have been put down the garbage disposal in pieces when she first opened her toxic vitriol spewing food hopper. (Just venting of course.... mostly at least)

No more of this tolerance crap for this little shit.  Make her life a living hell. Show her how you deal with people you don't like.

Her life should immediately be of two formats. Moderate misery for decent behavior and abject misery for her toxic crap.  Introduce her to the twisted ear mach to the corner where her nose is planted with a firm swat to the ass where she will stay until you get tired.  If she makes a mess, grab the paddle shaped cutting board and follow her around with it directing her clean up and applying the board to her rump any time she opens her vitriolic lips.

Teach her what the life of the spawn of a shallow and polluted gene pool will be.  And .... web cams.  Keep her ass under the electronic hairy eye ball to review with daddy when he gets home. Every vitriolic word.  Put the cams on your phone to shut them down when discipline is required.  No need for that to  be filmed. Corporal punishment is legal in 49 states but there is no need to cause yourself any problems.

Own her toxic ass for every second from the minute she sets foot in your home until she leaves to return to BM's.  

If I or my brother had emitted those words to our parents we would have been fertilizer. And it would have only happened once.

I am fortunate.  My DW is a quality partner and a quality parent.  She would have shredded her kid if he had pulled this kind of crap with her... or with me.  So I would not have had to.  And... my Skid was comparably an angel.  

Your DH is a POS and not worthy of you , boot his ass and put he and the progeny of that toxic genetic coupling to the curb.  This is all his fault. He is a failure as a parent. He should be the one whupping this toxic kid's ass when she pulls her toxic crap and he should be the one making sure her nose is semi-permanently planted in an isolated corner. 

This kid should tremble any time she even thinks about misbehaving.

Oh hell no.  Not in my world. No more of this every weekend crap.  No more than EOWE and then only if she earns it.  This kid has not earned unconditional love and support. Everything about her life should be conditional to her behavior.

This kid has me grinding my teeth and all I did was read your post.

Beyond belief.

smh

W.T.H.I.G.O's picture

The only time she ever sees a corner is when her mom puts her there or I do. And I've only attempted once because she literally fought me to stay out of the corner. 

There have been times I've been so damn angry I've had to leave. SO thinks I'm nuts but it helps to be isolated. He wont let her talk to me crazy but she just doesnt stop. She will keep running her mouth no many how many times shes told to stop. By him, myself or anyone else. It's like she HAS to get the final say in whatever and if she dont she will damn near fight to the death to get it. Which is when she should be catching a swift pop but he dont think so. 

I was raised the same. If we even looked at my parents wrong we would be laid out. I agree that you shouldn't beat your kids by any means but a butt whooping ain't crossing the line. That's the main reason I cant deal with her. If it were me I'd be knocked. She can do and say whatever she wants whenever she wants and anyone that gets in the way she makes their life a living hell. He cant hardly tell her no. If he does she whines and cries and bugs and screams at him about how "crappy of a parent" hes being. She just keeps going until he cant take it anymore and either gives in or totally loses his mind. Which either way she ends up getting what she wants. He either feels horrible for getting angry or gives in just to shut her up. Hes been WAY to easy on her. He says it's because her mom is so strict with her but honestly I dont think its NEAR as bad over there as she says it is. Especially now that shes telling people that I'm doing the same stuff shes told everyone her mom does to her. Total and complete lies. Manipulative and crazy.

Its exhausting. I continue because I want the shot at life with him with her gone. When shes not here it's so peaceful and relaxing. Life is good and all day its laughs and smiles. And then she gets here and it's a complete 180. Even hes said the same but it continues. I've tried to let him take it at his own pace so I dont overstep but it's just not working quick enough for me. Which makes me feel selfish... until I think about why. I'm torn within myself. 

ldvilen's picture

Just as an aside, because something you said got me thinking, I would venture to say that any DH who says he is easy on his child because, "her mom is so strict," is still trying to parent his child as if him and his ex- were still married.  Good cop, bad cop doesn't work after a divorce, not that it really works that well when mom and dad are still married.  He needs to be parenting her as what he is, a single dad, and not trying to counter what he thinks BM is STILL doing.

This is yet another reason why you are perhaps caught in the middle--DH is still enmeshed with his ex- to a degree and expecting her to guide him as a parent.  She is not around any more, so he is just parenting like he did when he was still married to her--playing good cop to her bad cop.  Perhaps?  He needs to grow as a parent.  Parenting lessons for him.

Rags's picture

I would have the whole house wired to record her crap (not bathrooms of course).  And every evening family bonding hour would be spent watching the footage of her crappy behavior.   Public ridicule and humilation is a wonderful behavior modification tool.

If you do nothing to confront it, nothing with change.

W.T.H.I.G.O's picture

Thank you all for reaching out. Atleast now I know I'm not crazy lol because sometimes I'm made to feel so. 

Question though, at what age would you in your own opinion say would be the ideal age for a girl to stop sleeping in the same bed with her father? 

They dont anymore because I put my foot down but I still get jabs now and again about how they cant sleep together anymore. Him and I share a bed. When she sleeps with us shes dead center and beating us both up all night. At the time being we are renovating her room so shes in our room on a cot when shes here. That's bad enough for me. Yet they still think they should be able to sleep together...

ldvilen's picture

They should not be sleeping together period.  Some even say that children and their parents should NEVER sleep together.  Of course she is going to angry about you sleeping with dad instead of her.  After all, she thinks (and has been allowed to think) that she is daddy's SO and you are daddy's seconds or thirds or pet who just happens to be there whenever she comes over.  You need to follow your head more, because you sound like the only one in the entire familial group that has any kind of common sense.  It is not uncommon for SM to be the only one to see family dysfunctions abound.  Everyone else is too accustomed to it and thinks it is "normal."  You don't need to have children of your own to know abby-normal when you see it.

W.T.H.I.G.O's picture

This comment makes me feel SO much better. They both have told me how "weird" I think. To me it's not weird at all. To me a daughter having free rein and complete control and being able to talk to adults like shes an adult is weird. 

I agree with a child never sleeping with their parents. My parents raised us that we have a room for a reason and their room was off limits as their personal space. We could go in when asked or told too and that's about that. And we damn sure werent allowed to sleep with them. I remember it happening one time after I had a crazy accident at a really young age and I was having an extreme nightmare. My mom put me in with her that one time. Other than that it was my bed in my room. His mom apparently let him sleep with her (his parents were divorced before he entered jr high) up until he was a teenager and started wanting to sleep on his own himself. I got that from both him and his mom. "She will go when shes ready". Nope, not if I'm expected to sleep in the same bed with them. 

I had a friend suggest that as well. The fact that he had been single so long had her thinking she was daddy's wife. He says it's not like that but he can be snowed beyond belief sometimes. He has to outright see it with his own eyes to even entertain the idea of any kind of crazy. Her thinking shes his SO took an even weirder turn not to long ago too. She waited until he left one day and then proceeded to come in my room where I was at and told me that she knows her dad and I get intimate (not in those words either, she was very blatant) and that we need to stop because it makes her uncomfortable. When I told her it was none of her business and she didnt need to worry about it she started throwing one of her dads ex gfs as an example. She had only met the woman once, her dad had broken up with her 15 years before SD was even conceived. But SD told me that "that's why I want daddy with *exgf* because she wouldn't do that with my daddy. She would be nice and sweet and take care of us" like I don't already, cooking, cleaning, whatever they want and need "I wish she was with daddy. Shes much nicer." Having not a clue about the woman.

She does that type of thing often. Shes heard about two of SOs exs before her mom. One shes never even seen nor met for that matter. She likes to bring them up often to try and get under my skin. Hell the child's even tried to find me another SO. Behind her dads back, and got mad at me when I told SO. It's a nightmare. 

Ugh. My brain lol

ldvilen's picture

Hilarious!  “She waited until he left one day and then proceeded to come in my room where I was at and told me that she knows her dad and I get intimate (not in those words either, she was very blatant) and that we need to stop because it makes her uncomfortable.”  I assume she used the F-word.  For some reason, I find in that sentence both what is wrong with today’s parenting and expectations for step-parents. 

Here we have a 9 YO not only using the F-word (and knowing what it means), but also acting like she is the #1 adult in the household (and permitted to be such), and thinking anything any adult does in the household has to be stopped if it makes her, a 9 YO, feel uncomfortable.  I could just see that quote posted on a mom site, too, and them all telling you you should do as she says because, God Forbid, a child be uncomfortable!  That one sentence sums it up quite well.  Patsy parenting, controlling children—all of this being permitted—most out of guilt rather than out of any kind of concern.  Yeah, both step-parents and America are getting screwed over this.

Wicked stepmo.'s picture

It is common for children who feel out of control because of environmental factors. Ex. Mom in and out, not stable.  They don't know how to to feel or act because they dont want to not be loved by the inconsistent bioparent. To act out in ways to gain control. I highly recommend reading Common. Sense Parenting, it is based on the same model used with children in psychiatric settings.  It is very effective and helps keep emotional responses at bay. Whether her issue is severe behavior or psychiatric it is still effective. 

W.T.H.I.G.O's picture

I'll definitely look into that. No matter what I'm game for a good read! If it will help, double bonus! Thank you for the suggestion

2Tired4Drama's picture

If not, I suggest you get one.  Seriously.  This kid can put you in a position where you might be facing jail time.  

I hope you understand that this girl will stop at nothing to damage you.  She's already lied and said you beat her.  She will continue along that narrative until authorities get involved.  It's only a matter of time before she "slips" and makes some kind of comment/lie to a mandated reporter, like a teacher or counselor.

Then you will be facing potential criminal charges.  

I hope this man is worth your freedom and future, because you may have to eventually give it up for him.  And be fully prepared that he will take her side.

The fact your SO slept in his mother's bed until he was a teen is another huge red flag, and is incredible dysfunction.  Beware!