Anxiety is making me ill
This is quite a long story and I'm not even sure where to begin.
My BF and I have been together for just over a year although had an emotional affair for probably around 2 years before this whilst he was with BM. I know, terrible, but we were so in love and he had just had a baby and felt trapped. He was desperately unhappy and we spoke daily about how incompatible they were. We pretty much got together as soon as he left her. It was messy and she did a lot to try and hurt him, keeping his child from him etc.
You'll see from my previous posts I've asked questions about worries regarding the child but I think I've recently realised it's actually not the child at all.
Around 6 months ago, my partner distanced himself emotionally from me and with adequate contact still not having been arranged and my partner harbouring a lot of guilt for leaving his child, he spoke to his ex behind my back about getting back together. He told her he missed his family but also what concerns he had r.e her past behaviour that would stop him from coming back. This destroyed me when I found out. I was devastated and ready to leave. But he begged me and told me he just missed his child so much and felt there was no other option as she was not letting him see his child. I did understand his reasons as angry as I was - she is awful. I stayed away for a while but eventually decided to come back.
Since then I've tried to move on. He's been talking to solicitors to get a contact agreement in place so her manipulation doesn't have a hold of him anymore. But I am still worried.
Every time I see him online and he's not talking to me, I worry that it's her and they're making plans for their future. Every time we argue or he seems distant I am convinced he's going back.
I'm an anxious person and have established recently that I need lots of reassurance to feel secure.
Has anyone else ever been in this position where their partner has felt so much guilt for leaving their family they've considered going back?
Will I ever get over this or am I wasting my time and hurting myself by trying?
Dump the turd, flush him down
Dump the turd, flush him down the toilet with all the other sh*t and move on.
It wouldn't really be as easy
It wouldn't really be as easy as that due to our massively enmeshed circumstances (home, work, friends).
Breaking up is never easy but
Breaking up is never easy but it' doable. By saying it won't be easy is just another excuse to do it.
I'm not saying you should
I'm not saying you should dump him (only you can make that decision), but will point out that how you're living now isn't easy either. And you're not likely to just one day "get over" this, although the pain will fade in time and you can rebuild a relationship, IF you both actively work at it.
This man broke your trust. And trust is a foundational element of a healthy relationship. What is he doing to rebuild your trust? It takes time, but it also takes thorough openness and reliability. Can you talk with him about how you feel? Does he tolerate you still being angry about it? Or are you expected to "get over it" and "move on." Is he trustworthy in every single aspect of his life -- for example, he says he's going to be home at 6 and he's home at 6, not 6:15 or 7? Is he willing to give you his login/password information for his phone and email/social media accounts?
What is he doing to acknowledge your pain, and what is he doing to try to alleviate it?
So she kept his son from him
So she kept his son from him for several years and the only solution he could find was to go back to her? Sorry, not buying that. He only went to a lawyer AFTER that? What happened? Did she turn him down? I certainly would have.. Who would take a man back if he dumped them right after they gave birth?! So he begged you to come back. Add to that his dishonesty, his facility for lying and his lack of stability ... why are you even thinking of giving him another chance. How many does he get before you move on definitively? You are being sucked in until the next time. Do you want children of your own? Imagine how anxious you would be during your pregnancy with the fear and stress that he might up and leave you for someone else at that time.
Sorry perhaps I didn't make
Sorry perhaps I didn't make it clear. She's made contact difficult since their split a year ago. Basically since he's been with me. Their child was almost 3 when he left and is now almost 4.
You're right, I'm so full of anxiety for "next time". I suppose I am just waiting to see if there is one. What a way to live
You know as well as I do that
You know as well as I do that that is no way to live. Look, there are four basic cornerstones to a good relationship - trust, respect, communication, love (not necessarily in that order). You need ALL of them if you're going to survive as a couple. How many do you have? And I don't consider living in fear of the next time to be an indicator of love ...
Don't you think you deserve better than this? I certainly do.
Would you mind if I asked you how old you are?
Look at it this way....
I agree with the other posters that this isnt the relationship for you and I think you know it. I sense you are concerned about how to make the break and I don't know enough of your enmeshment details to comment.
But look at it this way. Often on Steptalk, we talk about the "work" that must be done before a parent is ready for another relationship. Usually, we are talking about a non-custodial dad. They have to have their own place to live with appropriate furnishings for a child's visit ( beds, refrigerator, etc). They have to have a legal custody order that spells out their child support and visitation. They have to be abiding by their custody order for awhile. They have to have had enough time doing visitation that their child is comfortable and abiding by Dad's rules. How does your BF stack up? Do you think, as a parent, that he's ready for a new relationship?
It doesn't really matter what
It doesn't really matter what he does or doesn't do. He betrayed your trust and now your thoughts are understandably constantly caught up in wondering if he can be trusted. You deserve to believe in your partner and have a partner that you KNOW wouldn't go behind your back. You don't need the added stress in your life of always wondering what is going on with him, his ex and any other women.
Unless you two get some seriuos councilling to work through this your trust in your boyfriend is unlikely to come back. Even then the therapy might not work.
Breaking up is hard, but sometimes it is necessary to move on and start fresh with someone else.
It's funny how we can see the
It's funny how we can see the red flags in someone else's situation but it's harder when you are in it. This guy sounds like someone who can't be relied upon when things get hard. It sounds like he makes decisions based on his emotions and what serves him best.
He did it to BM by having an emotional affair with a coworker (I'm guessing) for several years before leaving her with a young child. Years. He probably has a lot of practice hiding communication. Now he is doing it to you when things get hard (hard to see his kids.) What you know about between him and BM may just be the tip of the iceberg. No telling what he's told her.
It's crappy to do to her, too, to lead her on. He needs to prove his commitment to you by getting a CO and following it, and fully separating emotionally from BM. Also, have you met the kids and seen how he is with them? If not, you truly don't know if stephell awaits. Be careful.
OP, what kind of man is
OP, what kind of man is having an affair while his wife has just had a baby? The selfish kind - who is more concerned about his own happiness than anyone else's.
I do think many cheaters cheat again, but it really depends on the nature of the cheating and the motivation for it. In most cases, cheaters are either self-centered people who want to have their cake and eat it too, or people who don't have the courage to leave a bad relationship before they start a new one.
Either way, they demonstrate that they can't be trusted to handle tough situations in ways that don't hurt other people. You can't trust him, and rightly so - he's not trustworthy. Can he become trustworthy? Maybe. Are you willing to wait around to find out?
If there's a relationship you
If there's a relationship you don't want to have to be hyper-vigilant about, it's the one with your life partner. That is pretty much a guarantee of an anxiety filled, miserable life.
I don't think your boyfriend is honorable or trustworthy. He had an emotional affair with you while he was with BM, and right after she had a baby to boot. Then he betrayed you and discussed getting back together with BM. On top of that, he seems to do whatever makes things easy for him with his child, which probably means a lifetime of not being the priority. I don't know why you'd ever trust this man.You deserve a life that doesn't include hyper-vigilance and waiting for the next shoe to drop.
I'd move on and hold out for a man of character. Your current boyfriend does not fit that bill.
The worst kind of cheater is
The worst kind of cheater is the man who cheats on a pregnant wife/gf or right after the baby is born - the most vulnerable time in a woman's life. This man is a straight up loser and I'm not even sure why would have such low amount of respect for yourself to be with such a garbage human being. And maybe this is karma for being the other woman at the worst possible time. Sorry not sorry
their child was almost 3
their child was almost 3
Yawn.
He is a dirtbag. There is not excuse for him and what he has done to his X, his children, and invariably what he will do to you and your relationship with him.
So I think I've ended it.
So I think I've ended it.
Thanks for all your comments x
Good for you for putting
Good for you for putting yourself first.
Enjoy the start of your new life adventure free of that toxic and shallow gene pool.
This is not meant to be
This is not meant to be unkind. The guy is a complete loser and you fell for him and still are to your own detriment. (The poor children in his life...) If I were you, I would seek therapy immediately to help you with your anxiety and lack of self esteem. Save yourself--leave him.
He's a complete loser. Get
He's a complete loser. Get ahold of yourself and stop seeing him ever. Get some friends to help you stay the course as you do so! You are worth more than this, but you have to believe it.
I am also a generally anxious
I am also a generally anxious person.
Perhaps someone else could make this work -- a woman with a huge personality and confidence to fuel it, for example. But the trust issue for an anxious person is like...a recovering addict dating an active addict or a bartender. It might work, but it will take more work and it might never feel that great.
It sounds a bit to me as if he's giving her a chance to clean up her act, and if she does, he might be lured back.
This guy sounds flaky. And you put yourself in a tough situation by being the other woman -- that means he might choose you, but he has to give up something else that he loves to have you. Why start out behind the 8 ball like that? You could start fresh with someone who has no hindrances, obligations or baggage.
Let him go figure out his mess. If you wait in the wings while he deals with his baggage, you're wasting precious time and risking coming out empty handed. You're worth more than that.
Trouble ahead
Whatever you decide, you are in for a rough ride. The way you got together was not a good sign or start. The actions he took to go back for the sake of contact is not good either. You may never know the 'truth'.
My partner did all kinds of 1-2-1 things 'for the kid' because his ex was controlling & he feared 1) contact being stopped & 2) expensive legal fees. Both things occurred anyway once his ex found out that he had a girlfriend that he had not told her about (me). We did not have an affair though (met 6 months after they were living in separate homes).
These situations do not get easier when the Mum is controlling, vindictive, uses contact with the child as a weapon or where Dad will not stand up to her or go formal to remove her control.
We ended up with a very expensive court case & have a court order. This has helped but Mum still won't give an inch of variance, controls whatever she can, blows hot & cold with my partner & ignores me & my kids despite us being great with her son. Trust me, it stays hard. When parents have this type of complicated relationshipn it is very hard to be around as it does affect you too.
I don't know how you can learn to trust him. I struggle even now affter 3.5 years & our own baby. The other Mum will always have some kind of hold, input, be a distraction etc. You definitely need firm boundaries. I doubt you can ever expect a good relationship with the Mum though given the affair. The kid is unlikely to think highly of that either in future.