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Anyone out there with permanent or long lasting damage from stepland?

positivelyfourthstreet's picture

How has it affected you? Are you totally wrecked? Has anyone from stepland caused problems at your work by spreading lies about you? (Can be anyone. Personality disordered not so DH, BM, SK whoever) Are you going to need lifetime therapy to recover? Does having a terminal illness in order to finally escape look attractive at this point?(just kidding..I think...)

Another poster had thoughts of a heart attack(SD heart attack not her own)solving everything. I haven't yet reached this point, but I can certainly understand it.

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Mercury's picture

Yes.

I have never been petty, jealous, vengeful, full of hate towards another woman in my entire life. I actually prefer the company of women. I'm a middle aged woman so I thought I was pretty set in my ways. I've seen a lot of bitchy-ness, relationship drama, mean girls, doormats, hetero, gay, bi--none of that mattered. I was still able to understand and get along with almost everybody and respectfully avoid the ones I didn't like.

BM changed all of that. I have never been exposed to anyone like her. I have met a couple of DH's ex girlfriends and they both fall somewhere in the range of cool chick -- someone I could be friends with.

BM is so.....different. I despise her as a person. I despise everything she represents: her lifestyle, her values, her belief system.

I realize that I've got some work to do internally. DH said he gave up the anger and bitterness years ago. I'm in the beginning stages of learning just how awful she is and I need to get to a better place fast. I don't like what I've become.

Mercury's picture

Disengage from the rage. I absolutely love that. I'm trying. Mostly failing but still trying.

Marie Fleming's picture

I can totally relate to what Mercury said. DH is able to detach. I've been married a few years, so the awfulness peaked. Thanks to this website, I am learning that it is okay to set boundaries. See, I did set boundaries before, to a degree, they were limited, because I felt guilty. No more, I don't owe these adult SK a thing. Their demands are over the top, their terms, or we are jerks. They are their BM weapons of war. Borderline BM, and daughter's are so much like her. I am a work in progress too. I want my balance back. I have had balance before. I too have met all sorts of situations in life and have been able to pretty much navigate. This projection of negativity from BM and SD's is a total new experience for me. I have really never had to deal at this level with people like this. I am in my fifties. This is my 2nd marriage. I have also had another long term relationship.

positivelyfourthstreet's picture

Some days I feel okay. More often than not I feel like an epic failure on all levels. Some days I'm so broken and tired I can't even speak.

There is a deep and wide chasm between my husband and I. We can't even talk to each other anymore. He gets so bent out of shape and defensive over SD when deep down inside he knows what she's really like. I try not to talk or change the subject or leave the room. "Look! A squirrel!" So I avoid speaking with him about much of anything anymore unless it's absolutely necessary just in case the conversation goes to the uncomfortable topic of Electra Barbie and her evil minions.

Sometimes the only thing that keeps me from giving up is knowing if I'm out of the picture, SD and BM will be around all the time trying to turn my daughter into one of them. Each friend and family member on their side seems to be an active member of their relational aggression army. I am already trying to watch her closely because she is in middle school now and middle school kids are evil-don't want her to be them either.

I knew this life wasn't going to be easy. But I never expected all of this. I know lots of you guys have it far worse than I do. At least I don't have to deal with them on a daily basis anymore. The underlying ever present tension that never goes away is still there though and will probably never stop.

At one point, SD and I kind of got along. She was on the outs with her mom.

Why? Because mom took her grandchildren to Disneyland and doesn't do anything like that for her was the gist of it. But at the time, she was up and out and living with her dream man.

I don't understand her at all.

She has so much going for her. She has an okay guy, they both have good jobs, they just got married, they just bought a house.

Why is it so goddamned difficult for her to just live her life and be thankful for what she has instead of wasting one precious minute stirring shit up for other people?

DaizyDuke's picture

There is a deep and wide chasm between my husband and I. We can't even talk to each other anymore. He gets so bent out of shape and defensive over SD when deep down inside he knows what she's really like. I try not to talk or change the subject or leave the room. "Look! A squirrel!"

This is where the majority of my frustration lies. DH and I used to be best buds, life was perfect until SD15 decided she wanted to move in with us about a year ago. Now DH and I fight and bicker about petty shit and DH gets so freaking defensive over ANYTHING that has to do with skids... like seriously this:

If I said "Why is BS4 riding his 4-wheeler in the yard, you know I don't want the yard getting all torn up" DH would say, "Hmmm, no idea, he knows better, go tell him to stop"

If I said (using same exact tone and facial expressions) "Why is SD15 riding the 4-Wheeler in the yard, you know I don't want the yard getting all torn up" DH would say, "why do you have to be such a bitch? It's just because it's SD and you don't like her (huff, puff, stomp, slam) I'll go tell her to stop."

WTF? and I am dead serious on this is how ridiculous DH is about this crap. And then he wonders why I want NOTHING to do with skids?? And he wonders why I am so resentful? I just want my happy life and happy DH back.

positivelyfourthstreet's picture

"WTF? and I am dead serious on this is how ridiculous DH is about this crap. And then he wonders why I want NOTHING to do with skids?? And he wonders why I am so resentful? I just want my happy life and happy DH back."

SD engineered some kind of attack the other day. We are throwing out a couple of junky mirrors. One was a castoff from SD herself.

He said, "Before you throw that stuff out YOU should call SD and ask her if she wants it."

Excuse me? I should call this shit stirring drama queen?-I thought.

She probably wouldn't want the stuff anyway. It's old and scratched. If she's making a nursery out of one room, she probably wants nice new department store stuff. They have very nice things. Our house is more like early thrift store or dumpster dive which is fine by me with kids and cats and dogs one doesn't have to worry so much. I tell him a few things along these lines and he screams "NEVERMIND. I'LL CALL AND ASK HER!!!" like I'm such a bitch I won't even talk to her so he has to do it since I hate her so much. (I don't really hate HER so much as what she does. Overall she's a productive member of society she just fucks with me every chance she gets) This all makes him so angry. I think it's because he knows what the truth is and hates to face it and once in a while I deliver a cruel reminder without even trying to.

You see, in a normal family situation I could and probably would call and ask. But anything I say and do can and will be held against me even if it is perfectly innocent. All this would do is create another inroad for her to truck in more bullshit to dump on me.

Part of disengaging is to let everyone else deal with the bitchiness and nastiness. It eventually comes out and can't always be blamed on us even if they do start crying "But we're FAMILEEEEEE".

They actually get mad when we put up boundaries and they can't mess with us. But they try and say it's our fault and we don't want to be part of the family.

I told H and kids the other day that family is one thing, but if family members are toxic we certainly are not required to deal with them. Blood is fine, but goddamnit when blood spills mine I'm out!

Seriously-this is what their lives are all about?

Starla's picture

Just the opposite. Everything bad about me surfaced when Skids moved in and I drank on top of it all. Of course my own mom moved in with us too and that was the beginning of what I thought was the end. Eventually I found this site and they all moved out but DH and I were left in bad shape. His IBS acted up and sadly it still to this day is out of control, both of us faced mental issues, and I carried on drinking.

Well I have lived on this site for quite some time now so to speak and I kept asking questions here and things started to add up for us. I have learned far more from you ladies here than what I have learned in all the years I have been in counseling. Hearing the blunt truth makes better sense to me than being in counseling and given no tools to work with. Well I was getting tools in counseling but it seemed to far out of reach so it felt pointless. At least people here call me out when I do mess up and I actually listen to correct what I can and that has opened up more doors for both DH and myself.

Since making changes, I gained much needed confidence and am now using the tools that was given to me from counseling and the people here. Even quit drinking recently and still have a ways to go with other things.

I can tell you this, I can't live with my Skids and my mother again. There would have to be extreme changes made if we had to have Skids move in with us but I won't live with my mom again.

Sparklelady's picture

At first I thought, "No, I'm pretty sure I am slightly bruised but not permanently damaged." But then I remembered that my DH and I had talked for years about adopting a little girl to raise as our own. After having raised a stepdaughter with BPD, there's not a chance in hell anymore that I would want to take on another girl. That's a dream I never would have given up otherwise.

Sad, but true - stepdom can cause so much damage. Sure, I can find the silver lining in all of this, and point out all of the lessons that I have learned. But when you have a bad bio mom and negatively affected skids, it is very much like having a cancer in your life. You can treat it, even overcome it, but the chemo needed to eradicate the cancer sure leaves its mark!

B22S22's picture

I have said for a very long time that many of the feelings a lot of us stepparents express on here are similar to those with PTSD. We take a look in the mirror on day and find that the on-going trauma has changed us from the person we knew to the person we've become... and not always in a favorable way.

I've always been a very outgoing person, friends with (almost) everyone, smiling, fairly carefree. Now? I'm a tired, worn-down, passive-aggressive, bitter hag some days.

TRUE STORY: My first marriage... my DH was diagnosed with a terminal illness when I was pregnant with my DS13 and my DD16 was 2 1/2. Four years of living with treatments that didn't work, failing health, trying to work full time, raising 2 small kids on my own(because my DH was physically unable to) and caring for my DH 100% (because his FAMILY was emotionally unable to) took it's toll. Rarely did I ever eat, was always on the move, so how could I have blossomed to 230lbs????? And then after my DH passed, I lost 35lbs in the first month (not trying) and another 50 lbs over the next 5 months (still not trying).

My MD explained it: fight or flight mechanism. It releases steroids/cortisol into your body for that instantaneous reaction when under stress. Unfortunately being under a high level of stress over an extended period of time causes the natural steroids to constantly flow... and acts almost as the synthetic steroids my DH was taking for his brain tumor -- massive weight gain, irritability/irrationality (think "roid rage"), GI problems, moon face, hump back, varicose veins, the list goes on. At 36 I looked and felt like I was 90 until I was no longer under intense stress all the time.

Now, having been living in step hell, I have to BATTLE my weight every single day, or I will return to what I was when my first DH was ill. And my constant scowl and irritability is back.

Ugh.

FTMandSM's picture

It definitely has added a whole new level of stress. If SO and I ever broke up, then I would never want to date again due to the fact I have a son and I wouldn't want anyone going through this type of situation.

And like another poster said...I have never met someone like BM, so manipulative. At least not to me. It has made me so jaded about other people, not just women, who have kids. I always think, I wonder what kind of Hell they put their ex through, even if they don't.

Mercury's picture

" It has made me so jaded about other people, not just women, who have kids. I always think, I wonder what kind of Hell they put their ex through, even if they don't."

Omg this!!
I lost a dear friend (actually I gave up on her) because of this. She had a child and shared custody with her ex. I began to see her as a BM from hell when the things she did started hitting close to home with me. The last straw was when she texted me with pics of a new hairstyle she wanted. She said she was waiting for CS so she could afford the cut color and highlights. I never contacted her again and we grew apart. I don't think that comment would have phased me at all back when I was a single, childless, STEPLESS, woman.

stepinhell617's picture

I gave up a lot to be with DH- I moved from the city to suburban hell, my work commute went from 40 min round trip to 3.75 hours, my friends are all 26 miles away (50min to 2hrs depending on time of day), I wanted a cozy condo not big house with big yard and all the maintenance. I went from no car to HAVING to have a car to do anything. Living here and being medically unable to drive sucks. I don't believe suburbia is good for children, yet where am I raising DD's? I have made so many compromises that have not been in my best interest due to step life. What is killing me has no known cause but I have wondered if it has been 9 years of stress due to DH and SS.
I have been asked if I would marry DH again- the answer is no and he knows it.

calm retreat's picture

I believe I have PTSD. I get freaked out at the thought of being in SD17's company. (I believe she has emerging BPD) I stalk her twitter and watch her school attendance, in a hyper-vigilant paranoid kind of way. As long as I know she's 1,500 miles away from us and still enrolled in school I can relax. But when she gets within 60 miles of us (when she visits her big sis) I turn into a shell shocked mess. When BM (undiagnosed BPD) and SD17 fight, which is often, DH gets drug into it because they start threatening to send her our way. DH always does a good job deflecting it, but I'm fearful that things will get out of hand there and police will get involved, (like it has in the past) and she'll be on the next flight. :O . Of course this is just my fear as DH would never agree to it. I come here as a form of therapy to help with my anxiety and disengagement efforts.

tiggidy08's picture

I have never been a "kid person" but I could easily like likable kids. My exSO did not have likable kids which made me constantly irritable. Now I look at any man who's saying things I LOVE MY KID NO ONE BEFORE MY KID - I'm immediately disgusted and move on.

To me, that now says that its not that you have your kid(s)' best interest at heart, its that you're a Disney Dad with a high conflict BM or a BM that you're TOO involved with.

bluehighlighter's picture

I've gained so much weight I no longer fit into most of my clothes. I've always been an extremely positive "well get thru it" or "I'll get thru" it optimist. I used to love kids or think they were great now I seriously question wanting one. For a while I was drinking all the time, crying once a week sometimes at work with my door closed. I had lost my self and my happiness over 2 strangers. I will never be so miserable again I WILL be happy with or without them.

bluehighlighter's picture

I work with victims and in the court system .... You have no idea the self entitled crappy people that think they can do what they want to other humans.

Some of the worst ones have parents crying to me on the phone, parents that still after their child has embezzled all their money of their business, stolen their car, laughed in their face, killed someone in a vehicle, THAT STILL have their child's back and they become a victim of their own kid they raised b/c of divorce and guilt.

I've sat SO down ONE TIME to tell him that kids raised like this become defendants if he wants to keep the child out of jail and keep him as a positive contribution to society then shit has to change. i've given examples.

A wonderful woman in my office left her husband finally after she just couldn't take his adult daughter-toddlers anymore. after 20 years of marriage left him b/c he was so weak when it came to his children now she's off enjoying her life.

I come to this site for support but also for reality checks b/c lots of things are prob never gonna change unless we change them for ourselves. it's completely shitty

positivelyfourthstreet's picture

"What DH doesn't realize is that it is making me lose respect for him, making me resent him and our marriage.

I fucking hate it."

Me too. If you tried to explain it to him, he would probably lie and deny that he even had any idea what you were talking about.

He had one of his regular bullshit meltdowns a couple of months ago. (I think sometimes when he sees any of the crew, they are badmouthing me and he will come home and attack me.)

He offered to move out like that was supposed to scare me or something. I asked him a couple of days later.

"Are you serious about this? Do you have somewhere to go? How would we go about everything logistically? Would we just split everything up halfway and go on? Would you see the kids EOW? If you're thinking along these lines we should probably try and come up with some sort of plan shouldn't we?"

I wasn't upset or crying. I was perfectly serious. It was looking like a very viable option at that point. He backtracked immediately but I opened another bank account anyway because one way or another, I need to take steps toward my safety and security if he does bail.

He never will though. He needs me. I'm the only person he can safely bully. He will never leave me alone unless he finds someone else to pick on. Sometimes I wish he would, but I would still be stuck dealing with him for at least five more years co-parenting.

Sigh.

calm retreat's picture

My DH does get it, and I have a great deal of respect for him. He's just as shell shocked as me, maybe more. I'm lucky he'll never let SD ever come near me again, at least until we know she's changed, but that will never happen. He only communicates with her on the phone. And very rarely. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, but I'm still damaged from it.

PetStr's picture

I am totally and completely broken. I feel like i'm no longer living, just existing. My house is no longer my home. I'm Wiccan and my house was a blessed sanctuary for me and my rescue dogs. Now I have none of that left. I've been invaded. The Skids have taken up any extra space and wrecked it with holes in the walls, destroying furniture, drawing on everything, trashing anything they put their hands on. I haven't been able to sit down in my living room and watch tv for over 2 yrs. Their shit is everywhere. DH has moved around furniture and thrown out things that were dear to me. I'm a shell of who I was. They only talk to me when they want something. I'm broke. All my $$$ goes to these people that don't care. I do all the "momma" shit without getting any of the recognition. BM does jack shit but she's still the "sweet, poor innocent blue M&M". My illnesses go unnoticed. I had pneumonia and I've been working with a broken foot (great when you walk dogs daily) I can't afford to go to the Dr, we have no insurance. My feelings go unnoticed. I had to put my dog to sleep and no one even acknowledged that he was gone but SD12's crab she'd had for a week died because she left it out of the tank and you'd think the world was ending. We had the waterworks/drama for hours, had to bury the damn thing in the yard with a cross and prayers. I secretly wished the cat had eaten it. I used to feel good when I was home, now if it weren't for my dogs, I wouldn't go there. I basically hide in my room with my dogs and, make sure that they don't bark or make a mess because DH loves to compare the kids to my dogs. Yes, seriously. If I say "SS10 left his dirty, muddy shoes and socks on the couch", he'll go "well, the chihuahua left his stinky chewie bone on the couch again". Its insane. I'm not me anymore. DH is very immature and irresponsible so I feel like i'm raising him too. I never signed up to be a mom to him and his lazy, nasty, inconsiderate, entitled brats. I've lost the will to live. I have to literally drag myself out of bed and force myself to eat and shower and go to work. I don't know how long I can do this anymore.....