Just Found Out Hubby isNot on the Same Page - Now Scared
Hubby and I talked earlier about our wills. He came out and put this on me. He wants 1/2 the house to go to his children when I pass and each to get large sums $ when he dies. He says I sound's worry, I will have the remember of his account and my social security. He seems to believe that I will get my SS and his SS when he passes and when I tried to explain to him it doesn't work that way he went off the handle.
What is scarier is that he, too, comes up that he is concerned my daughter will get everyting! Sounds like someone has already been bending his ear.
We don't have a large amount, I have a 401(k) and he has one, triple the size of mine. I am not sure the house is in joint tenancy as when we bought it we just both signed the contract - Jack Smith and Judy Smith and that is the way it is on the title. Same with the car.
I AM SCARED.
This is what happens whe,one
This is what happens whe,one 30 years ago that doesn't have the proverbial pot. I loved him, but was skeptical. My Mom, who was dying and wanted to see e remarried, talked tome and said that he was a good man, paid his childsupport regularly, which keep him from saving much, didn't drink, beat his ex, was responsible etc. As she said, I could do a lot worse with the men out there.
Me, I had my own home that I only owned a small amount on, a paid car, a fair job. and was going to college at night and a small 401{k{. He had a 1 bedroom apartment, cheap furniture, a car w car payments, basically no savings. Since hemarried me his whole lifestylel improved.
First, he got a promotion which he deserved and was able to get into co. 401(k). My mortgage payment back then was less that 1'2 of an apartment rent. His company transferred him and I sold the house and we moved. Next house was in both names and my home money went into it and improvements. Same when we retired. He sees the house as his becuase he paid, along with me, the real estate taxes and the remaing mortage. Hence the problem.
Forgive me for going on, but
Forgive me for going on, but he now says that if I don't go along with what he wants he will just tear up the will he has and let the court figure things out.
I hate to say it, but if it wasn't for me, he'd e living some cruddy apartment and I bite my tongue not to say that to him
Say it. I would.
Say it. I would.
Make it clear that everything will go to the survivor them be split between the kids/skids. We have it easy, we have one kid (my Skid who I adopted) so upon my demise (I'm 12yrs the elder) it all goes to DW and upon her demise it all goes to SS. We locked it up in trust until SS is either 40 or finishes a Bachelor's degree from an accredited college/university. We did this to keep the SpermClan's grubby mitts off of it and to parent a bit from beyond the grave if neccessary. He has less than 7yrs left until he reaches full military retirement. We would consider ammending our Will for it to all go to him once he reaches full retirement qualification. But, he will have only a bit more than a year to go until he hits 40 when that happens. So, he may be on his own dime until he is 40 if we kick after he retired but before he turns 40. Not changing the Will for 16mos.
I'm sorry your H is being manipulated.
Inheritance laws very by state, so make two appointments with an estate attorney ASAP. Find out where you stand according to the laws in your state. Write down your questions beforehand, and bring all pertinent documents with you. Dont take your husband with you to the first appointment, but do bring him to the second. The attorney will be able to outline laws and options, as well as explain that no, nobody gets to collect a double Social Security pension. Hearing this from an expert will hopefully clarify things for him.
A quick google search of Indiana inheritance laws for second spouses found this:
"The surviving spouse will inherit one-half of the deceased spouse's intestate personal property and one-fourth of the value of the deceased spouse's real estate (excluding liens) and the remainder will go to the deceased spouse's children." So he can't prevent you from getting half of his 401k. Be sure to ask the attorney about rights of survivorship, aka if an arrangement can be made that allows you to stay in the home until you pass. His daughters would get the house eventually, but you wouldn't have to leave your home.
Be smart, be strategic, and fight your corner. Don't be afraid to play the victim a little, because I'm sure his daughters are. " Oh dear, losing you would be so awful. I don't know how I'd go on without you. How awful it would be to be put out on the street AND lose you." etc etc.
A 401k follows federal rules.
A 401k follows federal rules. . If you're married, your primary beneficiary is presumed to be your spouse unless you specify otherwise and your spouse agrees in writing.
I believe Indiana abolished dower rights. So DH would have to give you specific rights to stay in the house in his will.
Exjuliemccoy gave excellent advice about two appointments. Knowledge is power. Get knowledge before you go with DH.
First off, check to see how
First off, check to see how the house is deeded. A married couple USUALLY owns the house WITH survivorship rights. He can't circumvent that with his will if the house is deeded as joint tenancy with survivorship.
Secondly, HALF of the value of the house is YOURS. And if he rips up his will, his kid would only be entitled to HALF of his HALF, not a full half. In that case, I would take out a life insurance policy on him so that you can pay his kid half of his half of the value of your house.
Next, in most states, retirement account contributions made DURING the marriage count as marital assets. In my state, when I had my now XH2 sign a post nuptial agreement (because he was a greedy, selfish a-hole) to waive any rights to my retirement account, he had to sign a document agreeing to allow to make my 3 children the beneficiaries of my retirement (and none to him). If you haven't signed away your rights to his retirement account, it should be yours when he dies.
Don't sign anything he puts in front of you!!
Take the great advice and go see an estate attorney to figure out what your rights are. Then let him come with you to find out for himself.
If he wants his kid to get something, he can set up a trust for his or he can get a life insurance policy on himself that has his child as the beneficiary.
Don't be afraid to play the
Take a page from Anna Nicole .... put that voice recorder in your "rosebuds" and sweet talk him into it
I am so sorry he is acting
I am so sorry he is acting this way! Reading this made my heart sink. Like others have suggested, yes, see an attorney on your own (first). Get a recommendation--make sure you see a good one. DH and I had wills, but they were very general. When I learned that our state could automatically give half of our house to his kids, I realized I would end up "homeless." I've heard horror stories. So, we took the plunge. DH was unable to go to the initial meeting, which was actually a good thing, as I could speak freely without embarrassing him (about his kids). The attorney gave me/us a lot of really good advice. I hope a third party (like an attorney) can talk some sense into his head...if he's willing to see one with you.
In all honesty, if DH was not ok with making sure I am taken care of after his death, I'd probably be talking to a divorce attorney skilled at getting money for their clients because of some of my sacrifices (like yours) early on.
County records state details of home ownership, as do your car titles.
Like you, our wills are
Like you, our wills are pretty generic. Because I am concerned about my living after he should pass he is calling me greedy. HE saved the money. Err, no. As I said, he didn't have a pot or the window. It was my haviung the house with an extremely low mortgage, etc. that allowed us, as a couple, to save a portion of his earnings for retirement.
We don't have a lot, and basically, income wise are just about the minimum where you can get assistance, like that new program IN has for seniors. But for a mear $3,000 we woud qualify for all kinds of help.
My social security is no where what his is. HIs response to be last night is that, as he sees it, I should be able to pay the expenses off my SS, but I would have to be very careful. What was my problem.......his daughter..... And his montra lyesterday and today is that I a GREEDY!
I am thining about a divorce attorney. He already brought up this a.m. if I was going to keep it up he would leave!
Is his mind ok? Is he having
Is his mind ok? Is he having cognitive issues? If you think he is (and they can go along with heart issues), it would be incredibly important to get that diagnosed and documented in writing NOW. If he's not, yea, I might talk to an attorney about getting what's yours now rather than later unless you can negotiate or circumvent this situation.
My best friend from childhood was the daughter of a big shot Washington DC attorney who was very well off. He had owned from his first marriage a historic home on few hundred acres just outside of DC -- imagine the value. He was in his third marriage and older when he became terminally ill. His wife had him change his will when he was in the hospital. The kids don't think he was even cognizant of what was going on or what he was signing. Guess who got 100% of the acreage worth millions, which she later sold to developers? People--eg, your SD--take advantage of others when their health declines, and too often they get away with it. You might want to start documenting EVERYTHING day-by-day and hide your documentation. You can always contest a will (of course, that drags things out) unless it specifically states in there that you are purposely left out or that if it is contested by anyone, that person gets nothing or $1.
He is not as sharp as he use
He is not as sharp as he use to be. He is easily smoozed by this daughter. She hoovered over him when he was in the hospital, that she as so worried. That was 5 weeks ago. She is very greedy, and H knows it, but he is projecting her greed on both my daughter and me.
I tried to tell him that he needed to be concerned about my financial health when he was gone. That was when he said he figured I could dojust fine on my small SS if I watch things, I could pay taxes and utilities.
And yes, I think she is influencing him by playing Ms. concerned about daddy when I never bothered before.
FWIW, I just looked up the phone no. of a legal aide society and will give thema call when H is not around. I have some mobility problems and if I should try to go somewhere he will want to go with me to help get my cart out, make sure I am okay, etc. I will tell that to the society so they know why I can come in and as personally. How does that sound?
Maybe you could send him on a
Maybe you could send him on a "fool's errand" to get him out of the house for a bit? Send him out for a list of things at multiple stores?
I did today, but sadly could
I did today, but sadly could not get through to the legal aide people. They were backed up for over 40 min. Will continue trying. I'm in preservation mode. As I see it, it is get this done or live in some kind of low rent tennament community for the time I have left. Heck, I may decide to go into assisted living after hubby passes because handling a house a lone is a lot of work and costs.
I would need every dime to afford a decent assisted living community.
You would probably do VERY
You would probably do VERY well in a divorce. My first husband of 26 years had to give me HALF of his retirement savings that were invested during the marriage. That really chapped his ass. I warned him.
First, double check how your
First, double check how your title is held...because at least in my state if he is dead and the house is in tenancy in entirety that the house is yours and you can do what you want with it. (Equally if you die he can do what he wants and your kid isn't necessarily going to inherit anything).
If needed it might be an idea to find a reasonable calculation of percentage of money paid towards the house that you and your husband can agree on with regards to your home. Litterally sit him down and write out the numbers for him. So if you paid 20% down and paid for improvements that added $25000 value to your home then you would get 60%+$25000 (to go to your kids) and he would get 40% - $25000 (to go to his kids). This assumes that all other house payments were more or less equal. If you do go down this route I would clarify what happens if the surving partner chooses or needs to sell the home.
Personally I told my husband that I did not want to have any obligations to his daughter if he dies before me. So he has it set up that she will recieve a substantial sum from his life insurance and I will get a smaller sum but also our house, and everything else goes to me (and subsequently our joint kids). I know our set up is not the same as yours but if your step kids got a payout from life insurance then it preserves his savings for you and might make him less inclined to try to distribute half the house equity to them too.
Going to lhobble over to the
Going to lhobble over to the "library" tomorrow. I do have some mobility matters and I can drive, get in and out of the car but it can be difficult to get my rollator out, and I need it.
NOTE library in quotes because I am really going to the bank to check the title of the house which is all paid off, and get a copy of it for taking care of me.
Now I have to dissuade him from wanting to drive me to the library and get my cart out for me, but I think, know I can handle that part with him, just insist that he stay with me at library until I am done - I am working on ancestry sltuff. He won't want to be there that long. It will give me time to check out registration on car and other stuff before I can move ahead.
I made a mistake. HE wants 1
I made a mistake. HE wants 1/2 the huose to go to his kids when he dies,
I want to saythat his one daughter has been getting somewhat attentionve since she smells blood in the water. He admitted to me she has been talking to hin about is will when I was't around. That would explains why, when at the hospital, I would walk back in the room and she, sitting close to daddy, would get up and walk out.
I'm scared. I hate to say it
I'm scared. I hate to say it, but he keeps a close eye on me so it would be difficult to get to a lawyer on my own. It is not abusive, but sometimes feels overprotective.
Affter yesterday;s disclosure, he is the victim and I am the greedy bitch where his children are concerned. Gotpretty hleated. He tried to tell me his kids are going to look after me when he is gone, hence giving them 1/2 house, etc. And my rlesponding that, until he had this latest round of seriouos heart probems, even the closet one didn't bother with him, even on holidays.
I would tell him that if he
I would tell him that if he gives half the home to his daughters NOW.. that the reality is that you will be out of a home. Is that what he wants? If he wants to ensure that his daughters ultimately get a share of the home.. that can be legally arranged.. you can have lifetime residential rights to the home but it has to be set up properly by an attorney.. I think that you would be best off trying to do some sort of consult.. even if it is a JOINT consult where you can ask your questions. you aren't trying to cheat his daughters.. but you need to protect YOUR interests as well.
There has got to be a way
There has got to be a way that you are able to spend a few hours out of the house. There are attorneys who likely do Zoom or Team meetings as well if you can find some privacy in your home.
It's not overprotective, it
It's not overprotective, it is controlling.
You need to take some time for yourself and let him get upset if he wants to. You have to be willing to put up with him being mad or having a tantrum to protect yourself.
Make an in person appointment
Make an in person appointment and have a friend pick you up for "lunch". You need to determine what your rights are. I fully understand you being scared. I'm scared for you:-(
Excellent idea
or schedule a "process" - hair, nails = 3 hours at least
I believe that as a widow you
I believe that as a widow you will be able to claim his social security check or yours. So you could opt to take the higher amount. It will obviously be less than before but might make some difference in your budget. I would double check this information though as what I read on the ssa website was a bit confusing.
https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/survivors/ifyou.html#h6
Unless the ex-wife is still
Unless the ex-wife is still living. She may have claims to his SS too.
I don't think that impacts
I don't think that impacts what she would be entiled to and she can claim on his benefits if they are more than hers.. and I believe 10 years married.
10 years married is magic
10 years married is magic number, doesn't matter if there's a current wife. The only thing up for grabs is the survivor check, a one time paycheck to one person.
Nope.
There is no limit on how many spouses can draw survivors benefits on the same current or former spouse.
They get the level based on work history/SS contrib
Toxic Troll used SS benefit level as a "reason" why she wanted to wait on the divorce until 10 years. Its not taking away from him or any other qualifying spouses. She wanted the higher "level" because shes never made that much money compared to husband, maybe half.
The military retirement
The military retirement version is a notable hurdle point. End it early, keep your retirement. End it late, lose half of more.
At this point, we are where we are (it will be 30yrs in ~6wks) and if we split the blanket, I'm not sure what the options would be other than just about 50/50. We had nothing but my BS when we married and have built everything we have since marrying. I guess a pitbull attorney might advise me to go after some % of her lifetime income since we put her through Undergrad and Grad school. But, I can't see me being that viscious. Unless.... she played similar cards to what my XW played, in which case I would burn every Cent to ensure that neither of us got a thing. Since going after a cheating spouse or their cheat buddy for compensatory or punative damages is highly unlikely, I am not sure I would do it. Though apparently there are still 6 States that allow these court actions.
Yes, I have divorce baggage. Even more than 30 years later. Serial adultery is like waving a red flag in front of a bull with me.
I would never do that to my bride and she would never do it to me.
Thankfully.
Rags, I like that you refer
Rags, I like that you refer to your wife as your bride. That says volumes.
I can call social security on
I can call social security on that tomorrow. I believe that is correct, that as a widow (oh, that sounds so terrible) I would get what he was getting, but thinking so and knowing so are two different things.
You need to see a lawer
And know your rights. The house should be yours if DH dieds. He can't will someone he doesn't have. Where did the money for buying this house come from? Do you jointly pay the monthly bills. ? I would not give SD anything unless there money from divorce was used in buying the house
He sounds off his rocker and controlling
Even husband as effed up as he is, insists verbally that I get everything, and then I verbally mention that I will give something to skids as a "present" from him.
Im very sorry after everything youve done for this controlling ingrate that you are having to deal with this in your golden years. Youve bet on the wrong horse - that happens.
Where are you located generally if you are ok with sharing. I love researching and am in the process of getting my own ducks in a row...
Yeah, one could say that. It
Yeah, one could say that. It was all good until the final stretch here.
His belief is that because we paid the taxes, some with his money, and same with utility bills way back when, that gave him rights to my original house and money from when it was sold. Screwy GREEDY thinking IMH, and he is trying to pin that on me.
Document document document
And get thee to a lawyer. Pronto. Go out to get a "woman process" done that takes a long time.
Do you have a solid friend group? I like that you are utilising free services...follow that trend. Hes obviously not intending to have your best interests at heart.
The money for all the homes
The money for all the homes we have purchansed since our marriage came from the sale of my original home worth $150,000 when sold and I only had a $28,500 remaining mortgage on it.
This currrent house, improvements such as central air, forced natural gas heat, roof, all came from that money. In this house, we retired, and the current heat pump we put down so much cash and are paying monthly on the rest.....so it didn't come from just his money. Funny, when I thik back he lived in an apartment that onl had one window airconditionair and yet when wemarried he wanted central air in our second home (we bought that when his company transferred him) my orig home had centralair.
First, I am not looking for
First, I am not looking for pity, just advice because I am scared. This has never come up before. He himself knows the daughter around here is greedy and has said that himself. Now, since she has had his ear ihe is talking differently. About his mind, well, he is not as sharp as he use to be, but lately it seems he can be easily swayed by things. He doesn't like cofrontatino, hence ripping up the will thingy and he is just gonna DIE crap.
I am just uneasy since finding that out. And the fact that he also told me this morning, get ready, I should start saving to make up the difference! What the hell. I had to stop short on hearing that. Perhaps I should ask him if he wants me to get a job as a bagger at the grocery store, but he justmight say yes in his current state of mind.
I don't know if it matters, but all we accumulated together as a couple was due to ME, and the initial financial situation I was in before marrying him.
What I hope to do here is gett suggestions, work them around into possible soluitons and go from there without destroying the marriage and keeping my sanity.
When trying to talk to him about my financial stability after he is gone, one of the comments was: "I'm sure you will find some way to manage. I won't be there", That hitme like a rock.
"I'm sure you will find some
"I'm sure you will find some way to manage.
And so will his kids. I'm assuming they are self-supporting, now?
But really, what an ass to not have any concern about you after he passes.
I should start saving to make up the difference!
Oh, I would start saving, alright. I would open up an account in my name only and sock away as much of HIS money as I could.
Like others have stated, double check on the deed to the house, more than likely it's all yours upon his passing and he can't change that without your agreement.
Same with a 401(k). Unless you sign in agreement, he cannot pass that to anyone else.
If bank accounts are in both names, those accounts are yours upon his death.
Basically, from my understanding, if he tears up his will, it only affects anything that is in his name only, that he hasn't designated a beneficiary for.
So, I would not argue with him about this, it's not worth it. If you want to appease him, Indiana does have beneficiary deeds. You can do a Transfer of Death affidavit, leaving the house to his daughter and/or whomever (after you both pass), and file it with the county's recorder office. This can be changed at anytime, so you could change it after he dies, if you so desire. The house would still be yours after his death (assuming you both own it, now).
Double check everything that you've been told, here, and get the knowledge to put your fears at ease. Then stop having these discussions with him, once you know that you will be okay.
Our situation is about as
Our situation is about as simple as it gets in the blended family world. DW and I married the week before SS-31 turned 2yo. All we had was my recently printed BS in Engineering, two 8yo vehicles, and two apartments full of college furniture. Everything we have, we have built it together. Since marrying DW has completed a dual major undergrad, grad school and a top tier professional certification. I have completed grad school and a top tier professional certification. We have both had solid careers.
We have owned a number of homes. Though we do not currently own. We certainly will when we find the right deal in the right place.
SS is an only in our marriage. DW and I are each the others sole heir and beneficiary and in our Will everything goes to him when both his mom and I are gone.
That includes my share of my parents' estate whatever that my be and hopefully not for another decate+. We do not intend do live a Spartan retirement though neither do we plan on burning through it irresponsibly. By all appearances SS will have his full USAF retirement, a retirement or two from the private sector, and SSI by the time he gets our estate. Add what he will get from us, he will be very comfortable.
The complexity and contentious probability when dealing with a blended marriage with assets in play prior to the marriage and distribution of an estate fairly between a surviving spouse and StepSibs is something I am relieved we do not have to deal with.
I am sorry your DH is buying into the StepSpawn begging he is obviously exposed to with his failed family progeny.
Take care of you.
Pitbull attorney! Consult
Pitbull attorney! Consult with them, establish the plan to protect your assets, maximize what you get while minimizing what he gets, the... nail his wrinkly sack to a wall and tell him he has a choice. Pull his head out of his ass or go live with his idiot manipulative POS failed family daughter because your attorney will eat him alive. Point out all of the salient history and facts and tell him to get back to being in the marriage together or GTF out.
Be reasonable, until it is time to not be reasonable. Be nice, until it is time to not be nice. It is past the point of reasonable, or nice. He crossed that line, cut off his gonads and make sure he feels every stroke of that rusty dull butter knife.
Proverbially of course.
Do not wait for legal aid. Find the nastiest most viscious pitbull you can and get at SO's throat immediately.
That, might pull his head out of his own ass. Odds are not bad that immenant painful destruction could get him into remission on his nasty flair up of toxic spawn induced CranioRectitis.
Rags, you made me laugh and
Rags, you made me laugh and think of that, what was her name? Lorena Babbit.
Outside his daughters
Outside his daughters instigation, I think I know what might have brought this on. Seems last summer I was notified that a cousin of mine had passed without a will and if I could prove who I was I was one of heir to the estate, there are 10 of us. I never knew this cousin but it is legit. He imagines I am going to squander in millions, I think. Truth is I will probably get a check for $100 and a coupon for cereal like in class action lawsuits. In situations such as my cousin who left no will, never married and had no children, the lawyer tends to eat up the estate.
I would at this point ask him
I would at this point ask him directly if that is the reason.. and that the reality is that as far as you know.. that relative's estate was not large and you would not expect that you will end up with much of anything.. so he shouldn't make his decisions on that pie in the sky unknown.
What he should know is that you are both older.. the ability of either of you to outearn any late in life issues is very limited.. If you do need senior care.. it's not like you can just go back to work to afford it.
I would also remind him of the big leg up your initial investment gave both of you in buying houses.. if it were not for that initial investment.. you would not have what you do today.
And.. I would assure him that your intention would be to split your estate if he prececeases you with his children as well.. because if there is anyting left.. that is the right thing to do. The problem now is that it's impossible to have a crystal ball to know if , what , how much you will need.
I think you really need to go to the lawyer.. and you also need to get a copy of your deed from your courthouse.. an dhave a lawyer tell you what it means.. it may go to you directly as currently written. If he wants to change it.. you can refuse to sign a new deed document if it comes to that.
The estate is not worth much
The estate is not worth much and by the time the lawyer finishes, as it has been 2+ years already, we might get a $100 check and a coupon for some cereal. The process has to be gone through because it is the law in order to close any intestate estate. How this lawyer can make an estate worth less than $75,000 drag on is beyond me. And there are over 10 of us "heirs". You do the math. I went over the math with him when it first came around telling him we might get a few dinners out of it but that is about it. Okay, maybe $3,000 after expenses, but that is not a heck of a lot by any means when he is talking about what he wants to give his kids.
Hey, I'll give them whatever I get from this estate and he can see that I keep all we accumumlated together and our home. I think I'll tell him that and see what he says.
Still going to keep my lawyer apt.
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Most houses will go to the other owner
As you will get the house. Hope DH does want you on the streets after he dies. So you should be able to live in that house until, you died. I think a joint bank account. His half gets divided between you and kids. You 25% of his half and kids get 25%
You definitely need legal advice. Now.
On bank accounts it is how it
On bank accounts it is how it is titled. Ours are okay. It is just the house and the retirement I am concerned about. Also, she likes stuff and is going to want things out of the house. Having had a home, all of the major furniture is mine, along with china, etc. He bought one of tose bg old tv cabinets that are obsolete now and we converted into a bookcase, knick knack thingy. But I know that she has eyes on the revolutionary war stuff we collected over the years. I traced our histories and he is SAR and I am DAR so we had fun. I can pretty much tell you what she wants, the period powder gun. How is she gonna get it? She is gonna cry that she needs something to remember him by and her adult children do as well and they are going to go for the good stuff.
I can assure you that is not going to happen. Hubby and I bought that gun together (yes I know how to fire it) Whatt she shoud be interested in is his SAR medals, etc., but they are not worth anything.
My husband recently
died and we had reciprocal wills that left everything to each other with our collective five children (3 of his, 2 mine) as back up beneficiaries if we died at the same time. That's pretty standard. But what else is standard is the inclusion of a clause that clearly states that whichever of us is the survivor we are not bound by the terms of this will. And while we did not realize the benefit to the survivor everything we owned was held jointly and so automatically passed to me at his death. Because of this his will didn't have to go through probate.
Like you, my house was nearly paid off when we married and became the seed money for our retirement. He was pretty much broke after his divorce. I didn't have any debt and a stipulation of my agreeing to marry him was he pay off his, which he did.
In my state real estate transfers to the survivor if the deed says tenants in the entirety or simply "name, name, husband and wife." My lawyer said that's pretty standard in every state.
I'm expecting his kids to contest the will because they are jerks. They have three more months to do so. Lucky me.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that all goes well for you. The main takeaway from what I have learned is that if something is jointly owned it doesn't matter what the will says. It passes to the survivor.
Just a FWIW: On Father's
Just a FWIW: On Father's Day only 1 of his 3 kids called him. The one on the west coast. The greedy one, concerned about the will never called, and this is typical of her. Oh, she will pop her head up sometime later this week and cry about how she didn't realize it was Father's Day. She does that a lot and Hubby seems to always buy it.
Okay, I was wrong. The
Okay, I was wrong. The greedy one called a few min. ago. Interesting H. let it go to machine. Oh, she is calling to wish him a Happy Father's Day. She got busy and forgot all about Father's Day, yada yada yada.
I am saying nothing. But I notice that he has not even played the message back. I heard it, he wasn't totally in the room when she was talking so he didn't hear the full thing. Interesting! And proves the point of what I have been telling him the last week or so. I is not about him, or me for that matter, it is about what is in it for her.