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AshMar654's picture

So I have a question?

My SS9 told me the other day he likes using my step-dads real name instead of calling him grandpa. He calls my mom grandmom and does not use her real name.

I call my stepdad by his name because I am just so use to it since I have been doing it since I was 16. I consider him like my dad. SS also calls me by my first name and refers to me as like mom to his friends and sometimes calls me mom when we are around other people.

When he said he likes calling my stepdad by his real name it got me wondering if he just enjoys calling adults by their first names and thinks it makes him more grown up? Does he pick it up from me calling him that?

I mean I do not really care that he calls me by my first name, I am sure some here can kinda get why sometimes I wish he would call me mom, considering I take care of him, do everything for him, all the mom stuff. Just to note I never say anything to anyone about being called "mom" or try to encourage him either way. I always said he can call me "ashmar"if he wants that is his choice. I am sure some of you get it. I would hope.

Anyway, was it wrong of me to tell my SS9 that I think he should call my stepdad "grandpa" because I know that my stepdad likes it? My parents treat my SS9 like he is my son and their grandchild. That is what my niece and nephew call him and SS9 did for a little and suddenly changed. Is this a kid thing trying to use actual adult names instead of titles?

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ESMOD's picture

Well... your stepdad is not his grandfather.  And... he probably hears what you call him so that is the association for him. 

My YSD took to calling her mom by her first name when she was a teen.. drove her mother crazy.. called my DH by his name occasionally too..lol.

I was always "esmod" to them... never got called mom.. introduced as "my stepmom esmod"

If you get the feeling he is doing it as a lack of respect thing.. maybe curb it.  But I think people stand on less ceremony with Sir and Maam etc.. these days.

Areyou's picture

If he is a member of your family then he follows the customs of your family lest he thinks of himself as a visitor.

lieutenant_dad's picture

I think you were wrong. Your SS should get to choose whatever respectful name he wants for you and your family. It doesn't matter if they treat him like their grandson. He isn't, and your SS wants to make that distinction.

AshMar654's picture

I would agree with you if he was consistent about it. He called him grandpa and referred to him as that until like just now. He also has no problem referring to my mom as grandma.

I really think it is because I call my stepdad by his first name and SS thought he would try to be adult and like me.

lieutenant_dad's picture

That's not really an "adult" thing, though. I have always called my SF by his first name. I have waffled back and forth on what I call his siblings - sometimes Aunt/Uncle Name and sometimes just Name. It really depends on the relationship I have with them and/or my general feelings about the titles.

Really, you need to let SS figure this one out for himself. It's his relationship to navigate, and forcing him to call him "grandpa" may cause more issue than letting him navigate this himself.

AshMar654's picture

I get what you are saying because I have been there with my stepdad's family but I was 16 and older than SS. He was calling him grandpa and just stopped. I honestly think it is because I do.

He is a kid who is 9 and should treat adults with respect. I am almost sure he was doing it to be more of an adult and try to act all grown up. He has been doing that like crazy lately with a lot of things. He has no problem calling my mom grandma. If he was really trying to navigate the relationship with my stepdad, I think he would be doing it across the board.

ESMOD's picture

Another thought.. it really was only an issue with the YSD since we didn't have the OSD with us much when we saw my father.  Now, my dad is a bit of an odd duck.  He never really took the girls in as if they were his granddaughters but they did get a few things from him.. but it was more along the lines of what you might gift to a child of a close friend.  In any case, my younger sd wanted to know what she should call him.. he said "the Colonel".. he was a colonel in the army.  He didn't mean it super stuffy.. but he obviously didn't want her calling him gramps..lol. Even with my brother's bio son.. my dad isn't a typical grand dad type and doesn't act like one.

I think that SS9 should call your stepdad a name that they are BOTH comfortable with (like if SS didn't want to call him grandpa.. but stepdad DID.. it shouldn't be forced).  I think that either Mr. (sdad's last name) or some other moniker that your Sdad finds appropriate is what the boy should call hiim.. not "tom".

ndc's picture

One way to find out if it's just an issue of wanting to call adults by their names is to give him the choice of Grandpa or Mr. ______ (either his first name or his last name).  I don't draw much of a distinction between your mom and your stepdad - neither is the grandparent of your SS - so it could be hurtful to your stepdad to be singled out to be called by his first name.  My SO's kids don't use "grandparent" names to refer to my parents, but they also don't call them by just their first names.  It's Miss firstname and Mr. firstname.  To me that's a sign of respect, and SO is a southern boy who never called adults by a first name without a title and wouldn't dream of letting his kids do so.

AshMar654's picture

Thank I think I will try that. Like I said I was not sure why he wants to call my stepdad that but not my mom. I think it is because I call my stepdad by his name. I just do not see that as right for him to be doing that.

If not grandpa it should be Mr........ Thank You

Survivingstephell's picture

I brought my kids up to say Grandma first name, Grandpa first name.  Both sets of parents were divorced and it just made it easier to keep everyone straight.  When they were hanging out with them one on one, they just said grandma/grandpa.  

I always wonder where a kid gets that idea in his head, a major change like that.  I'd be curious to have that conversatoin and see what's been planted and what's been pondered.   

blayze's picture

A 9 year old should call an adult Mrs. or Mr. First Name... your SS should be given a choice, “Mr. Firstname or Grandpa”.

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

Honestly I wouldn’t force it. You don’t call him dad so how is it different them him not calling him grandpa. You have your reasons and it’s not because of anything negative.

SO’s youngest was SUPER excited the last time he saw my dad because he asked if he could call him pawpaw like my nephew does and he was told yes. However, my mom who he sees more is still called by her first name. I’d say they have a closer bond with my mom if I had to say anything. I think the only time they see my dad though they see him with my nephew and hear him called pawpaw. My mom though they see all the time and hear her called her first name by my boyfriend so the youngest picked up on it and is following it.

If you want him to change then you need to change too and lead by example but don’t get onto him about it. As long as he’s using a title that is respectful and yes first names can be.

notarelative's picture

SS  is nine. You and SO get to guide him through social norms. so think carefully about  what you want. 

You have stated that you call your SDad by his first name. But, what do you call him when you are taking to SS about him. If you use his first name, you are telling SS that he is not related to him even as a step grandfather.

When you use the word outwardly when you say your Sdad would not outwardly say he cares, you know that it would bother him. And if it bothers your Sdad, it will affect not only SS's relationship with him, but yours too. And what about your mom? How will she feel about her being called Grandma and her husband called by his first name?

Also think of your future children. Is Sdad going to be worthy of a grandparent name then? Or will be be first name, the guy who lives with Grandma?

Think carefully about what you want as this decision may affect both SS's and your future relationship with your Sdad. I say this as first name, who when the Grands call me first name,  feel like a mixture of grandpa's live in and a Victorian lower servant (not the wife of twenty years).

 

 

AshMar654's picture

I refer to my stepdad as my parent when I am talking. Like when I say to my SO "hey my parents are coming over." I also call him grandpa to my SS.

I say hey grandma and grandpa want you to spend the night. That is how I refer to him around the house. Somtimes I say my mom and dad. I do call him by his name when I am around him just because I am so use to it. I also call him grandpa to SS when my stepdad is around.

If SO and I ever have kids they will call my parents grandma and grandpa. That is a simple answer. I want SS to call him grandpa since he calls my mom grandma. I feel it should be equal. I get it is hard for a kid to understand all the step dynamics fully. He will when he is older.

Thanks for the advice.

CBCharlotte's picture

I tried to get them to call my parents Grandpa Jerry and Grandpa Karen but they see them so infrequently they kept forgetting their names entirely!  This summer, SS9 said to my dad and mom "You look too young to be called grandma and grandpa, so I like to call you Aunt Karen and Uncle Jerry"  They loved that!!! hahaha

StepUltimate's picture

SS9 melted my heart reading that. Sooo cute. 

Maxwell09's picture

It could be a power issue. An Equalizer if you will. SS7then6 started calling BM by the name we call her. Its the nickname she had her Ex Step daughter and godchildren call her. When we first heard it we asked him why and he said it was because he wanted to so we didn’t push. When he said it to her face, she freaked out on DH claiming we were making him call her that “because SS said you call me that.” Truth is, he is a mini-husband-her golden child and he runs that house. She caters to him out of fear of not being his favorite parent so she plays the bestfriend card. DH told her the truth. He told her that she lets him believe he is her equal so he wants to address her the way her other equals address her-by her name. 

elkclan's picture

I grew up calling my maternal grandparents by their first names (sort of - one was a nickname but that's what everyone called my grandmother, so as good as a first name). I called my paternal grandparents Grandaddy and a made up nickname sort of like her first name. My ex called his parents by their names and my son calls all of his grandparents by their names. I am almost 50 so not exactly a millenial. 

I sometimes call my mother by her name - I know she doesn't like it. But it gets her attention. She's very very good at ignoring people who call her mom. She doesn't particularly like being called 'first name' by my son either. But it's stuck now. My step kids call my parents by their first name. I don't know what my son will call my partner's mother and stepmother. He's only met them once so far. 

Hopefully when I have grandkids and step grandkids - they'll just call me and my partner by our first names. I'm happiest with that. I don't think it's disrespectful or a power play. Or maybe they could call me by my rugby nickname. 

OP - I think you should talk to your stepdad and ask him what he would like to be called directly and influence that. He may not actually care. It's the relationship and not the name that matters. 

 

notarelative's picture

Ask Step dad. If this was a new baby or a new step grand I'd agree. And yet even then, ask implies which grandparent name would you prefer. (Although people can respond with first name when asked).

Now, after being called grandpa for a time, asking, to me, implies that he is no longer worthy of a family honorific (especially when wife continues to be called grandma). 

And how is step dad to reply. If he objected to being called grandpa, he'd have said so before. Is he supposed to insist on the name if he wants it (knowing that SS doesn't)? Is he actually going to tell you that this suggestion hurts him? Or is he going to be outwardly ok with it?

SS is nine. He's still trying to figure out his new blended family. It may be as simple as SS has just realized that step dad is not your bio dad and what you call him and thinking steps don't get family names. You need to help him navigate it. You need to figure out how you view your step dad yourself and how you'll help step dad understand your view if SS changes his name.

 

 

AshMar654's picture

Thank you. My stepdad has already been called grandpa in my family. I have a younger niece and nephew so he already has his grandpa name. They were both born before I met SO and SS so that is what it is. How it goes in most families oldest grandchild determines what the g-parents are called.

SS has known for a while now that he is not my bio-dad. We had a talk about it almost a year ago now. He gets it but I told SS that I love my stepdad and I still look at him like he is one of my parents. I really think he was doing it because I call my stepdad by his real name. I think he was just trying to be a little smart and like me. I think he see me do it and I am adult and I allowed. I really think he was doing it for that reason.

I am not going to ask my stepdad. I am simply just going to repeat that is grandpa and grandma. I think it is right and it shows a sign of respect and adoration towards them. We will see. I will try to refer more to him as grandpa and use his real name less.