I must vent before I lose my cool
My BF and I live together separately, if that makes sense. We don't share a house but we are back and forth to each others.' We live a couple hours from each other. So we miss like 2 or 3 days a week together.
One of the reasons we don't live together is I don't want to leave my job. I've been with a good company for years and I make pretty decent money/retirement plan for a person with little college. BUT the biggest reason we don't live together is his 24dd (and her BF25) and 20ds still live at home. Back story: their mom passed 8 years ago and I personally think he wants everyone to live together forever. I'm not about that...
So because of 'life' (his job is suffering) he is having to move in a few months which we talked would be a perfect opportunity for the kids to find their own way and us get a place together where I live. That all changed when he went home and dd24 started looking for houses/apartment for the 4 of them. First off, she pays for nothing at ALL! He even still pays for her hair appointments. That being said her and her bf make $70k between them a year and have saved nothing. He makes it so easy for them. I feel like it's a huge disservice to kids that age to coddle them. They are freaking adults and don't make any decisions for themselves or have any opportunity to grow and make mistakes because he's always there to fix everything. Is this craziness generational, is bc their mom passed away. What the heck?
So, this is petty but I've been pissed off since last night; it's because of the above building tension. I gave him a recipe he loves that I make for him (at my house) and he was going to make it last night for all of them. So we are chatting later and I asked him how it turned out and he said "dd24 didn't think it sounded good, so I made something else." UGHHHHHH!!!!!!!! *bomb*
I'm so frustrated - thanks for the vent
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I am of two minds when it
I am of two minds when it comes to things like this.
My first thought is that this is a HUGE disservice to the adult kids, and I can't imagine WANTING to live with my parents in my mid-20s (I did for a short time and couldn't get out fast enough). I also can't imagine dating someone who let their kids live at home.
That leads me into my second thought: I wouldn't date someone who had their adult kids live at home just because the kids wanted to. However, I wouldn't knock someone if that is the choice they want to make and that's the life they want to lead.
What you have here is a compatibility issue. He likes living with his kids, for better or worse, but it's not a lifestyle you like. He either thinks living with you sans kids is better than living with his kids sans you, or he doesn't. It sounds like he like the arrangement as it stands since he's not making any moves to either move in with you or kick his kids out.
If you force him to choose, you may win the battle but lose the war. He may be happy for a short time but then try to weasel his kids back into what would be a shared home. Unless he is willing to live on his own for a while to first prove that he CAN and WANTS to live on his own, I would maintain your relationship as is. If you're wanting a mate who lives with you, or at least lives kid-free, you may need to cast your net back into the ocean and find a new fish.
@LT Dad When we started
@LT Dad When we started dating they were both in college with a couple years to go. I niavely thought (like you) they wouldn't want to live at home once they graduated. I moved out at 17 so a 24 y/o at home is really weird to me. Especially one who is financially caple of taking care of herself. I have no plans to dump him. I'm just going to keep my house and just do the weekend bit I suppose. My son is going to college this fall and he's already been prepped by me that once he is gainfully employed he will need to find a place of his own. I'm done raising kids - and I don't want to fiancially contribute to raising someone elses.
He does sound like he enables
He does sound like he enables them a bit....He is not unlike my husband that makes accomodations because the kids' mom is uninvolved. Their mom passing was a huge loss, understandable that it would bond them....But he is doing them a disservice enabling them from avoiding taking responsibility. Maybe frame it less about "they need to pay for this"....vs...As adults, life is about making choices and their independence as adults starts off with the little things like paying for their own hair appts (what is that about?) Maybe he's not ready to have them move out on their own....but little steps to encourage their own responsibility for their lives is a good first step.
Good advice - I'm not good at
Good advice - I'm not good at diplomacy you obviously are. I want badly to say some months as a young adult I couldn't afford to color my hair or treat myself to fast food, trips (many trips - like serioulsy once a month) because I had to pay bills. They have not experienced any suffering that way.
I hate to say dump him
But you see the writing on the wall. He is always going to be overly involved with his kids. Until his kids want him out of there lives if ever. If you want a relationship where it’s only weekends, maybe a vacation trip every now and then. Where you will be paying for everything because his money is going to his kid. That great. It’s great if it worked for you. But I would NOT expect more. I would not sell my house. You need control!!!! You need to say, your kids are not going to live in my house. No if ands or buts.
I live in one of the most
I live in one of the most expensive housing markets in the world. So I fully expect kids will live with us as adults if they want to live and work in this city (for a time). They won't be able to afford anything else - at least at first.
But even though the oldest is only 12, I've already been laying the groundwork... kids who are not in full time education pay rent at my house. I even told my son that even if I won the lottery and had a spare flat, he'd still be paying rent on it.
My brother lived rent free for years in his own apartment in a student neighbourhood. He only just got his first real, professional job at the age of 37 or 38. He's doing ok now, but he could be doing a lot better. He just drifted... I don't want that for my son or my stepsons.
I totally understand where
I totally understand where you're coming from. We are midwesterners cheapest housing in the US. DD and her BF make more than I do, and I'm a single mom supporting a kid about to go to college with no scholarships. They can make it just fine ... if they wanted to. I make it just fine I just can't always do what I want like them. They literally take a trip once a month. Last year BF and I saved an entire year and went on a nice vaca. DD threw a hissy fit because she wasn't invited and bc it wasn't a "family trip." I told her next time to save a couple thousand dollars and she could go too.