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daisy0202's picture

well when I got home again was still upset DH and I got into a big brawl again and I asked him to leave and maybe we need a break. He was upset but took SD and left. This morning he called me we tried to talk but again blow out! He tells me I am sweating the small stuff and he doesnt know what I want....I want to be your wife not have your daughter be your wife....Why doesnt he get it????

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morgan_minx80's picture

Gosh he sounds like a typical fella. Maybe things are too raw to talk things through at the moment. Id let him stew for a few days and then give it to him straight. If he dont get it then how can he change it for the better of your relationship? Keep your chin up hun x

StarStuff's picture

Yeah, but it's not small stuff to you. Even if it was, your DH needs to realize that all the "small" stuff adds up and turns into big stuff.

Crazy_in_Ohio's picture

Usually "Smll stuff" all adds up in to "BIG THINGS". And generally speaking, small stuff is because of the big elephants in the room that we're blind too and not addressing.

*HUGS* to you. If he doesn't get what you're telling him, then it will never change. If you've tried the adult explanation, and you've tried the 4 year old explanation and he still doesn't get it...You might be at an impasse. I'm sorry for you.

bi's picture

it's the "small stuff" that makes up your daily life. the big things don't usually happen on a daily basis, the small things are real life. so yeah, it matters. i don't understand why so many people don't get that. also, when the same small things happen over and over again, they start to grow and they aren't so small anymore.

DeeDeeTX's picture

She can't keep correcting him though, because he isn't receptive to the message.

Every time she says something, he either gets angry and yells, or turns around and makes everything her fault for making it into a " big deal".

I would say that's borderline verbally abusive.

asheeha's picture

for some reason he is not understanding you. can you give him a word picture? make up a situation that would affect him the same way you are being affected? i have no idea what i would do. but there is a severe block in communication somewhere if he really cannot understand your reasons.

but even if he can't understand them he has to respect that you feel and think this way.

have you tried to say i want xyz? it may be worth it to write out what you want and then try to figure out a plan of action to get there. At least start a plan and then maybe you two together can figure it out together.

i know guys deal better with solving problems with action rather than wading through the murky water of emotion.

Delilah's picture

Your DH is demeaning your feelings and how you have been treated, because its not him on the receiving end of such shitty treatment. I would TELL him clearly "thats the problem. YOU think its "small" stuff. You dismiss everything your daughter does and you allow it because its not you shes doing it to. Its me. Make your mind up who your wife is because the way things are going I am losing interest in you, your daughter."

Right now your DH isnt taking this situation *that* seriously or he is just interested in investing his time and energy into making this *your* issue, he is denying everything and will continue to because he is in denial. Unless he SHOWS you he is willing to change (not just words but backs them up) then you will continue banging your head up against a brick wall and imo you appear to be at a crossroads whether you will accept this as your future.

Personally I would cut off contact for a few days, to get some space to think about what you want. If you want to make a go of it, I would perhaps consider living apart and getting couples counselling - reason for this is 1) your DH will have motivation to make an effort because he misses you 2) you wont have to ensure his dd 3) couples counselling because ultimately your DH is KEY. If sd has issues thats up to her dad to address this, however when these problems impact on you and your marriage THEN your DH needs to address it healthily.

The reason for cutting off contact is also to make DH sweat. Its not game playing but right now all he is interested in is sweeping everything under the carpet, for you to say its you causing these problems and to carry on as it is because as mentioned he isnt on the receiving end of poor partnership and crappy skids.

I always think you treat others as you wish to be treated. When DH has pulled similar crap on me, I have been known to respond with a good ole dose of his own medicine. Then when hes commented/got upset I calmly point out that apparently these are the house rules he plays by, well the same rules apply to me. Dont like it? Dont DO it to me then. I also have used DH's own words and used them against him e.g. in your case I would clearly point out that its not nice having your birthday ruined, something you are used to, so get over it...

Hugs, its hard I know and heartbreaking when you quite clearly can see whats going on and your partner refuses to make those healthy adjustments in order to ensure you and your home is happy and healthy!

Hindsightis2020's picture

Yes this. Selfish people who want to get their way use words like "small" to demean your feelings. Of course, if it was a problem HE was having, it would be important and a big deal. Since it's your problem, it is small and unimportant. My EX-husband did that all the time.

Yes, let him keep stewing. In a few days, talk to him and tell him you don't want to be married to someone who thinks that things that matter to you are "small" and unimportant. If he doesn't care about what is important to you, then you are better off alone.

Helena.Handbasket's picture

SO and I have been through similar huge blowouts. All the way to him looking for apts and us agreeing to end it. Over SD and his parenting!

He does know what you want, he doesn't want to change. These things aren't "small stuff". I am sorry you are going through this, but this is what happens when we finally come to our limit and have to put our foot down.

daisy0202's picture

Its very agravating and trying to work today is extremely difficult. I just want to cry!!!!

herewegoagain's picture

Sometimes men just can't see it, really. :O For me, what has helped is anytime I have had an issue with DH in regards to crazy, his family, anything...I sit down with him and literally explain to him how it would affect HIM...that usually helps.

For example when his daughter texted him and called him a loser and told him to F#$%$5 off that he was full of s#$%$%t and that he was a fc$%^%^ing loser for not giving her money for "school clothes", ie. she wasn't going to school...he didn't get why it would make my blood boil, although he was upset. So I changed it to:

What would YOU do if our son, even now at 10yrs old (vs 15) asked me if would buy him something at the store and when I said now he said to me "you are a fu#$%%ing loser, you bi#$%%ch?" His eyes opened wide and of course he said, "I would kick his a$$". I asked him why and he said "because there is no way I would ever allow some little shi345T to talk to you that way. Of course, I then said, "but you see, I can't call your daughter and wring her neck of slap the crap out of her and you can't understand why it makes my blood boil". He got it.

When his ex would call him and ask for favors, etc...and he went BEHIND my back to do them and then she would still call OUR home to cuss him out, etc...he also didn't get why it upset me so much. I again turned it around and said "wow, imagine if MY ex-husband called our house, while we were having a great day together as a family and told me off! What would you do?" He of course said, "I would kick his a$$!" And again I said, "funny, you can't do that to your ex, I can't do it to her either, but if my ex-husband treated me the way she treats you, caused havoc in our home, if I did favors for him behind your back you would kick his a$$?" He of course, got it.

So sometimes you really need to stop talking from the perspective of what is reallly happening and show him a different perspective. Heck, sometimes when I am angry at him for something and I see something written HERE I will tell him, "can you imagine? this lady's husband just did X" I think separating it from ME helps him and me helps him see things much more clearly. And then he realizes that if it is wrong in his eyes for someone else, that is not US to go through X, then obviously it is completely wrong for us too.

Good luck.

Delilah's picture

Your DH is demeaning your feelings and how you have been treated, because its not him on the receiving end of such shitty treatment. I would TELL him clearly "thats the problem. YOU think its "small" stuff. You dismiss everything your daughter does and you allow it because its not you shes doing it to. Its me. Make your mind up who your wife is because the way things are going I am losing interest in you, your daughter."

Right now your DH isnt taking this situation *that* seriously or he is just interested in investing his time and energy into making this *your* issue, he is denying everything and will continue to because he is in denial. Unless he SHOWS you he is willing to change (not just words but backs them up) then you will continue banging your head up against a brick wall and imo you appear to be at a crossroads whether you will accept this as your future.

Personally I would cut off contact for a few days, to get some space to think about what you want. If you want to make a go of it, I would perhaps consider living apart and getting couples counselling - reason for this is 1) your DH will have motivation to make an effort because he misses you 2) you wont have to endure his dd 3) couples counselling because ultimately your DH is KEY. If sd has issues thats up to her dad to address this, however when these problems impact on you and your marriage THEN your DH needs to address it healthily.

The reason for cutting off contact is also to make DH sweat. Its not game playing but right now all he is interested in is sweeping everything under the carpet, for you to say its you causing these problems and to carry on as it is because as mentioned he isnt on the receiving end of poor partnership and crappy skids.

I always think you treat others as you wish to be treated. When DH has pulled similar crap on me, I have been known to respond with a good ole dose of his own medicine. Then when hes commented/got upset I calmly point out that apparently these are the house rules he plays by, well the same rules apply to me. Dont like it? Dont DO it to me then. I also have used DH's own words and used them against him e.g. in your case I would clearly point out that its not nice having your birthday ruined, something you are used to, so get over it...

Hugs, its hard I know and heartbreaking when you quite clearly can see whats going on and your partner refuses to make those healthy adjustments in order to ensure you and your home is happy and healthy!

imjustthemaid's picture

I feel your pain. If my DH didn't finally open his eyes to SD15 I would be in the exact same position you are in right now!! He needs to put you first. How frustrating that he does not see it for himself!!

oneoffour's picture

He is thinking with his ManBrain and cannot comprehend how you feel.

See, YOU said 'We can go out for dinner or I can make dinner you. I don't care either way.'
HE heard "I am not that fussed about our plans." So when his daughter chimes up with a solid plan he jumps at it. Now I am not saying you are wrong or he is right. But men think in terms of 'situation... lets fix it.' His solution was "Mum makes me my dinner. Done deal. DW doesn't have to worry about it."

I think you need to write it out. All the things his daughter does that interfere in your relationship...
1) When we are speaking she answers for me or for you. I am an adult. I can speak for myself. I am married to you not her.
2) Arranges meals without discussing what WE both want. I am open to suggestions but telling me what the plans are is rude. I am married to you not her. I know she means well but her role as the decisionmaker needs to stop. I am open to suggestions but not set-in-stone plans she has cooked up on our behalf.

What do you think? Also find the girl a hobby. Geo-caching? Something that will get her out of the house. it sounds like she has the making of a great community organiser. She could be a future President!

asheeha's picture

i really like this idea. i would say make a first draft and then try to tone down the negativity on SD, make it more about what you want to see develop in your relationship with dh and how to help sd become a productive part of the family but not a wedge between the marriage.

the only reason i say that is he seems ultra sensitive to negative remarks about step-daughter right now.

but as always this is in my opinion and you know what needs to be done!

i hope the VERY BEST for you!

3familiesIn1's picture

Daisy,
I would hold out for the break - he says he doesn't know what you want and everytime you try to explain there is a blowout. Maybe a few days without confrontation to get your thoughts together. Can you ask him to stay with his mom for a few days so that you can get your head together?

You can write things down, make lists, whatever works for you in that time to straighten out and lay out exactly what you do want. Then you will be able to set forth to him the core problems you want addressed.

daisy0202's picture

just got a text from him..

babe i luv u, let it go, im sorry

let it go? i always let it go and look where we are at now!!! I dont understand him....

asheeha's picture

that boy needs a frying pan taken to his head!!!

a more appropriate message is

babe i luv u, i want to make this work, let's figure this out! NOT let it go!

i'm with the others he completely disregards your feelings

sorry buddy...

my reply would be...

babe, i luv u 2. i've tried to "let it go" repeatedly now. it keeps coming back. if you really care about us then you will try to work something out with me that works for me too and not just for you.

when you are ready and open to do that then feel free to contact me.

3familiesIn1's picture

Well, maybe that is your answer.

I am tired of just letting it go. By letting you let it go all this time is what I have been trying to explain to you. That is why we are here now. Its not just the birthday - the birthday was just the straw to break the camels back.

Shaman29's picture

I used to get the same thing from my DH too.

Let it go.

It's not a big deal.

You're making mountains out of molehills.

And my favorite.....silence and the dismissive hand wave (he's lucky he still has the hand).

If it matters to you, then it's an issue. I agree with the others. He's giving you the I love yous and let it go because he feels it's okay to expect you (us!) to turn our lives upside down to accommodate his offspring.

It's not okay. It's time for him to nut up and face some reality. I laid it out to my DH a few years ago, when after 18 months of marriage I said I was done being the guest in the house. He apparently already had a wife and I had enough of watching their marriage grow, while ours was disintegrating. I told him I was already looking at apartments and would be moving out in 30 days.

It was a struggle but he finally started waking up and realizing ignoring his daughter's bad behavior was unacceptable. He actually told me that he thought if he ignored it it would go away. I explained that no, buddy, it won't. In fact, by you not reprimanding her or stopping her, you were giving her the green light to continue treating me like a piece of s**t.

My advice is tough love here. Separation and counseling. Hopefully he'll finally catch a clue and start doing what he needs to do for your relationship and marriage.

I'm sorry you're going through all of this. It makes me want to scream when I see this scenario over and over on here. We're supposed to shut up and just take it. While our health and sanity starts going to the wayside. At some point we all have to say enough is enough.

VioletsareBlue's picture

He wants YOU to change but doesn't want to change HIMSELF. He also doesn't want to do the hard parenting work with SD. It's a bunch of crap. Stick to your guns! You deserve to be happy. He can love you all he wants but unless he changes things it doesn't mean a whole lot. *hug*

Helena.Handbasket's picture

If he's asking you to let it go, what is he sorry for?

That was a call for lets just forget everything, I want to just keep doing what we're doing.

Doesn't work that way. I'd ignore it.

cant win for losin's picture

I frickin HATE them type of apologizes! Wanna know why? Cause he is not apologizing for the right reason. That is a shut up apology as I call it.

He is apolozing because you are mad/upset, NOT because of what he did or because he see's the light!!!

GRRRRRRR

asheeha's picture

stay strong girl! you have to stick up for you. if you don't nobody will. i had to set a few ultimatums in front of dh before we were married. i'm still not happy about it, who wants to do that with the person they love, however it was necessary and he even admits that now. i asked him recently if there would have been another way and he says no, i needed the ultimatum.

it's scary and there are no guarantees. you just have to know inside you that you can't live like this anymore.

it might get worse before it gets better. i hope he sees the light sooner than later. he also might not respond well to the message. it's ok...he's reacting to change...most people do it.

stay strong...we are here for you!

(((hugs)))

daisy0202's picture

Thanks but I sent it and than recieved a call from him. We are meeting tonight to talk but I told him he needs to stay at his moms for awhile i just can not deal with this until it is fully fixed. He didnt seem happy but said we will work this out I promise. We will see. He will be staying at his moms for awhile. She is thrilled BTW...Another DOUCHE!!!!

3familiesIn1's picture

Ugggg, she is happy - sigh

I think a little space, which is always really really hard when the emotions are high is still the right choice.

Space and a little time will allow you to get your head on straight and should open his eyes. This is important, it deserves to be addressed and the right amount of time taken to resolve it properly.

You are doing great.

asheeha's picture

you are in my prayers daisy! and i'm sending you the best thoughts your way!

stick to your guns. i read this book http://www.amazon.com/The-Dance-Anger-Changing-Relationships/dp/006074104X

it teaches a person to own their own happiness.

if you need to write up what you need out of the relationship and try to write out how to get it.

the book suggests using I statements and keeping your needs about you rather than placing it on another person. it helps keep defensiveness down. we all have our own unique needs that should be valued. if he finds them silly or trite or small that is his problem. they are YOUR needs and a part of you and that is not small or insignificant!

we are all rooting for you.

forestfairy's picture

We are psychic. We posted almost the same thing at the same time. I even posted something about I statments but took it out at the last second. Wink

Helena.Handbasket's picture

I'm sorry daisy Sad I still think its best to stand up for yourself on this though. I really do understand how hard this is.

forestfairy's picture

SD is thrilled? Did he tell you that?

I think going into this meeting tonight, you need to write out your feelings and needs. You can spell it out directly without him interfering with his comments/rebuttals. I would actually write out your feelings and email to him earlier so he has time to think about it. Don't just say how you feel, say concrete things that need to happen to fix it. Men work better in concrete answers, instead of trying to figure out your needs based on your feelings.

asheeha's picture

which is worse in my opinion! my mil would be DEVASTATED if this happened to dh and i because she knows her son would be hurting and she supports our marriage. i hate that he is there! but one step at a time!

daisy0202's picture

Just had a patient come in who just got married 2 weeks ago she showed me a clip of her husband singing to her at their wedding....Some love song... he did this before their vows....How romantic....But all I could think was good luck sweety....he has a daughter 7......enough said!!!! She says oh the daughter was upset about the wedding but she will come along i just know it....YAHHHH RIGHT!!!!!!

LilyBelle's picture

When you are composing your thoughts, please consider referring to the vows you made when you were married.

Most wedding vows include the phrase forsaking all others- and that means your spouse above all other people.

This is not "small stuff".... this is a vow to one another and to GOD. This is about the priority you have in his life, and about honoring and protecting your relationship.

In all this, take care of you! You can't handle all this stress if you aren't nurturing your spirit!