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Further Developments with SD soon to be 20

Julie-1234's picture

Hi Everyone, I'm back again *biggrin*

Ok so relationship with SD19 after boundaries were set has been great.... few minor trying her luck moments but a quick reminder that we're not putting up with that behaviour anymore soon puts a stop to that. 

So here is the dilemma..... At the age of 19 my SD doesn't have a job or leave the house that much, myself and my DH are trying to encourage her to move forward in life but it is hard to keep up momentum when she doesn't live under our roof..... Her BM is toxic towards her and if my SD tries to have a basic conversation with her about her life things blow up pretty quickly. 

I personally think BM is holding her back and that my SD issues and lack of maturity come from years of emotional abuse. 

BM will often not have food in the house and when my SD questions why she is told to shut the F UP, get a job and buy your own food. When she does buy her own food the others eat it because of the shortage of other options.... I should stress their financial situation is fine the lack of food is just down to I can't be bothered to do a shop. 

Now don't get me wrong i'm all for her getting a job but I do think support, guidance and encouragment is a better way of approaching it than the put downs.

Last night my SD messaged us in tears and she sent us an image of a message exchange between herself and her mum. My SD was trying to create a birthday wish list on amazon and she sent it to her BM just to see if she could open the link and this is the response she got " You don't want much of my hard earned money do you?! Bit of a cheek, sitting home all day and then having a birthday list for those of us who go to work to treat you with. Wow " when my SD said ok I don't want an fing brthday anyway! her mum replied with "OK.... Dummy well and truly spat! I didn't ask for a birthday list did I"

Am I wrong in thinking that is a dreadful way to talk to your child? 

BM also took her husband and their 2 boys for Mc Donalds the other day and just left my SD at home with no food to make dinner just because BM thought she hadn't done enough chores that day, they just left without telling her and told her to F Off when she phoned them about it. 

She eats at our house daily at the moment because of the stress of it all.

I have no idea what to do about it so any help is appreciated *sad*

Comments

Rumplestiltskin's picture

Does SD go to school? Does she work at all? At almost 20? It seems rude but i have an 18-year-old and you get sick of working all day, coming home in the evening to cooking and chores, and there's another adult just hanging out in jammies asking for presents and food. Birds will just stop feeding their young at a certain point and will push them out of the nest. I understand now.

ETA it would be better if BM (who it seems has had full  custody) had been a better parent and gradually prepared SD for adulthood. 

Julie-1234's picture

She has been a troubled child since I met her at the age of 4...... Her mental maturity is that of a 13/14 year old she is at the same level mentally as my 13 year old BD. 

She breifly went to college when she was 17 then dropped out of that with anxiety and she breifly had a job in the local supermarket where she couldn't cope with the social aspect of it. 

The BM controls every aspect of her life including when she could or couldn't see her BD and who and who she can't have a relationship with. There's been no prep or guidance for adulthood including puberty. As her SM I wasn't even allowed to explain or prepare her for body changes/ periods. 

My DH has tried to help her with finding a job and her BM tells him to leave her alone and accuses him of putting pressure on her. 

AgedOut's picture

She's 20. Has she ever worked or gone to college? What is her game plan for life? Are you still paying support to her mum?

Julie-1234's picture

She did briefly after school, she states anxiety, lack of social skills and has little direction in life. 

My DH no longer pays support to BM instead we feed her everyday and buy her essentials, provide clothing and take her to her appointments with the Job centre, Doctors ect

Rumplestiltskin's picture

If you are taking her to doctor appts and a job center, you are leading the horse to water. She has to be willing to drink it. Home is too comfortable. Cut off her internet. Other electronics. Give her chores. Or is DH bringing these things to SD at BM's house? 

Julie-1234's picture

We work Mon-Fri 9-5 so she stays at the BM house so the only meal she gets is if we buy her food to take home or the evening meal she eats in the evening at our house. 

BM does nothing to actively encourage chores or job hunting and to be honest she is ok with it a lot of the time, other times she will rant which confuses my SD.... BM refuses to have anything to do with any aspect of SD life unless it's an occasion like Christmas where she likes to play happy families. 

Harry's picture

For many reasons.  Basically just to get out. Earn some money get self worth .  You must push her to get a job. What she can do.  McDonald type of fast food. Local restaurants , pizza places .. Employer need hard workers. If she is willing to do the hard jobs, they will love her.    It will get  her out and about , looking at problems differently.
She is so involved in crap with her mother ,  if she out  maybe she will make friends. Ect.

1st3rd5thWEInHell's picture

19 years old asking for food and sending bday wishlists to her mother who provides for the entire household on a single income....the cheek indeed

Quit pitying that adult grown woman and let her deal with her mother. The mother isnt babying her. She wants food, she can get it herself or make some. If the others eat it, then she can find a storage solution or share food with her siblings up to her. Also should be doing anything she can while mother is gone at work to make life easier and enjoyable.

If she doesnt like it, she can move out to live on her own but most adults like that end up in roommate situations in which they are unable to hold their end of the bargain or engaging any responsibilities

 

Of she plays these mind games with you lot and you fall for the crocodile tears until you move her in and fall into a deep dark nightmare with a demon woman acting like a child....Beware...

 

Dont worry about how she talks to her own daughter, that is their family dynamics and they probably do a lot worse behind closed doors....You are the outsider and always will be

Julie-1234's picture

The situation is the BM is the reason my SD is the way she is, she's never supported her or helped her grow into the young adult she should be. She's certainly not a single mum there are 2 wages going into her household. 

If you research parental emotional abuse my SD is showing all of the long term effects anxiety, poor academic record, poor social skills, imatturity, anger issues, the list goes on. 

SD does do jobs around the home when BM is at work like clean, put washing on ect. 

I do feel your comment is a bit harsh because how is a child meant to grow and learn when her main carer barely cooks or cleans herself.

When she's with us she's a different person all together, happier and more relaxed. She won't stay with us permanently because she struggles to cut the strings that's attached to her BM. 

Yes SD is an adult,  in body she is yes but unfortunately in mind she is not. 

 

 

SteppedOut's picture

Sad, but true. She is an adult and could move to your home very easily. You/your husband can do nothing to change the bm or the type of home she keeps. Perhaps bm is on purpose making it uncomfortable to get her "out of the nest". 

Julie-1234's picture

Sadly not she's been like it all her life or at least since 4 when the marriage broke down. 

Betterhalf's picture

There is no solution to this problem that does not involve SD starting to adult. Yes, BM sounds emotionally abusive. But, guess what, there is nothing you can do that is going to change that. And SD has got to learn how to stand on her own two feet. I'm sure she's anxious. Who wouldn't be? Change is scary. But she's got to be the one that decides that scary change, getting a job, earning her own money, is better than the status quo. You don't seem receptive to any advice that requires SD to have agency in this situation, you just seem to want to blame BM. And I'm sure she's horrible. But she is not going to change and there is nothing you can do about it. SD is an adult and needs to start acting like it. Encourage her to get mental health help and get a job and move out. That's the only way this situation will get better.