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RockyRoads's picture

Things have been going really good. SD showed her true colors and  SO finally decided to leave me alone about not wanting to do anything with or for his kids. I have let him go thru football season going to partial football games on Friday nights (because SS is JV and doesn't really play) and going to all Saturday morning games without causing a fuss because I wasn't even asked to go.                                      

This has meant I have taken on more  of a load at the house. At the end of travel baseball and beginning of football BM and SO agreed that there would be no basketball. SS would concentrate on starting baseball again. I figured fine there would be somewhat of a break.                                          

Well BM went behind SO back and signed SS for some Rec basketball team. It is three months of one practice a week at night and then Saturday games. I guess SS was upset because he isn't going to be on the varsity baseball team and only on the JV team so BM is trying to make him happy. Maybe you didn't make varsity because you don't concentrate enough on the sport.                                                              

SO isn't happy about it and of course I am not either. It is going to overlap with baseball practices. SO will feel obligated to attend the basketball games and I already know how obligated he feels to run him to the baseball stuff.  SO did tell BM he wasn't happy with it but what can he do. Not go to the games?  His kids are already pretty much non existent in all other aspects. This is all he has left. If he doesn't go SS will like him even less because BM will tell him your dad isn't there for you. But now I am left for three more months of Saturdays that I should have had. I wouldn't be so upset except that it is overlapping with all of the running SO will do for baseball. I don't know what i am looking for I am just venting. 

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Rags's picture

His response to the scent marking by his XW and their spawn does not reduce his duties in your home, life, and marriage. Stop taking on more in the home. In fact, put more on him.  Work time is from the time the first of you leaves for work until the last of you gets off of work. Being a blood hound following the scent marks of his X and their spawn is not work. So, when he gets home, hand him the recipes for cooking dinner, broom, mop, sponges, cleaners, and the chore list that he has to have done before he gets to shower and come to bed. When he comes to bed, he services your emotional and physical needs.  Then, he can sleep.  Of course you have your half of the chore list done so you can diligently supervise him in getting his done.

I stole the emotional and physical needs thing from another STalker. It applies here I think.

He needs to clearly see what he owes you, the marriage, and your marital home and HE needs to figure out how to deliver on all of that in addition to working and earning a full time income. Servicing his XW and their spawn he has to do after or in between when he mans up on everything else.

IMHO.

I am furious for you.  I hope you realize that his never ends.  His XW and their spawn are a lifetime drama burden that the odds of them ever ending is slim and none at best.  These shit shows tend to only get worse once the SKids reach Skidult status.

RockyRoads's picture

I guess what I have found a relief from is that he hasn't asked me to do one thing with or for the kids since senior night with the SD and how he was treated.He is actually seeing the kids for what they are. My SO even said he has a feeling that the relationship with SS will end the same way it is with SD he still wants to hang on as long as he can. I knew that with baseball my SO would be doing most of the leg work and was prepared for that. What I wasn't prepared for is 3 months of Saturday games.  I mean SO can just not go but then he would feel bad. But I am going to take your advise and not do all the work. While he is at the games for those two plus hours I am going to either sit on my butt or do something for myself. If he is letting those jerks take away from his duties with me and our home then you are right he can do his share of them when he is done.  I just don't know how much hurt one man can take from his kids before he stops. At least he has let me stop. I am hoping BM figures out how to manage to let SS drive himself to all of these practices.He will be able to in January . SO will really see he was just a  ride. BM figured out how to let SD drive , I call it gasoline ass, so SS will want the same and those kids get everything they want. 

Dollbabies's picture

has frequently occurred to me is that your SO also expects to get everything he wants, the fact that he isn't demanding that you attend Saturday morning rec sport basketball games notwithstanding.

Think about it. He has expected you to not just accept his infatuation with his kids but also has demanded that you do likewise - and he has thrown temper tantrums when you refuse.

I'm thinking the apple doesn't far from the tree. 

Yesterdays's picture

That's a great observation. Everyone gets what they want by demanding it.. Except RR

But also that the son is learning it from him or acting the same way at least, and its not shut down by his parents 

Yesterdays's picture

Overall... Boundaries and reasonable expectations  are important. When Rocky Roads tried to communicate some reasonable requests she was usually shut down and furthermore he tried to demand more things like making her go to all their games etc

And then the kid... Due to all of the circumstances it would have been reasonable to say to the kid that it was too much... He's taking on too much, it isn't feasable, for example choose one sport etc. But instead the kid just got what he wanted and it was all just over the top. And the kid demanded all these things and the dad and mom allowed it.

The kid will grow up just wanting it all his way or the highway too... Because he was never told no. He was always catered to. 

RockyRoads's picture

SO did not want him to play basketball and BM and him agreed on it and SS was told he wasn't going to do it. BM went behind my SO back because SS was pouting about not getting on the varsity baseball team. He is not good enough and is playing on JV. That is where his grade plays unless they are better players. And you guys are right SS acts the same way SO does by throwing tantrums and demanding that he gets what he wants .And then he always does get what he wants.  I had to use SO phone (he knew I was using it)this morning and I decided to look at the texts between him and BM about this basketball crap. They rarely communicate anymore .  SO did tell her that SS was not supposed to be playing a third sport, he said he was not contributing any money to it, and he will be at the games he can be at and before he knew that they were just all local at one place he said he would not be driving him to any tournaments or out of area games. I am not sure why he didn't communicate this with me. I am guessing because I know that he will end up at all the games because they are all at the local rec center. I do know that if I make plans for something on one of those days for us he will not be going to a game. Especially since I now know he had the guts to say something to BM.  

Rags's picture

Time for your plans to consume the calendar.  Every spare minute.  Time for mommy to be the Uber service that schleps the SKid to every event. This kind of crap cannot be tolerated to interfere in one more second of Dad's COd time with  his kid. If mommy wants her time to be a solid wall of over-scheduled kid coddling, that is on mommy.

I would not tolerate a relationship where my mate put me and our relationship on the back burner and played the role of dung beetle chasing the scent trail of his  shit ball X and their shit ball spawn all of the time. Visitation is for the Skid to integrate into the NCPs life, not for the NCP to coddle the Skid and cater to an idiot X's manipulations.

If I were an NCP, I would move way beyond the radius for local or 50:50 visitation.  I would push to get the holidays and most of the summer so I could structure my time with my kid(s) as I saw fit and to minimize the interruption of my time by my X.  If that meant summer day camp, vacations, etc... then great.  Getting far enough away from the presiding court and the X to not have to deal with the crap would be my goal.  I would also make damned sure I had the kid's passports so if I wanted to do a cruise or international vacation I could without interference and manipulative bullshit.

What the SpermClan did on their time with my SS was their call.  They did Disneyland (once), they did vacations at time shares and  vacation homes owned by SpermGrandHag's housekeeping clients.  Mostly they just planted SS and his three younger half sibs by two other baby mamas in front of a wall of screens to watch the Spermidiot play video games.  We did countless things during our Skid time.  Fortunately for him, we were his real life and his normal.

RockyRoads's picture

But remember the problem here is that there was never a custody order for a schedule and the kids don't even stay with us anymore. There is zero set time for when my SO is supposed to have him. All I can hope is that SS starts driving himself to practices (even though SO was against him driving and also lost that battle) as soon as he is able which is in January. 

Rags's picture

Nothing a call to a pit bull lawyer and a Court hearing to set a CO and visitation schedule will not fix.

 

RockyRoads's picture

He thinks the kids are too old for him to go to court. He says they will like him even less. But I saw this coming 4 years ago when I meant him. But now ,to be honest, I don't want him to go. I would dread having those kids in my home now. Neither of us know who they really are. It would be living with strangers. For both of us. 

RockyRoads's picture

He is very immature. It is for his safety. But BM and SS always get their way.  I don't think he is ready to drive either but at this point I hope he does so SO will be less burdened. Or should I say I will be less burdened by SO being pulled away. lol. Selfish me. 

Yesterdays's picture

I agree with doing nothing while he's at the Saturday events or do something nice for yourself... Treat yourself. I don't feel he should go to ALL of the games.. He should take some to spend with you too. He can miss the odd game (imo) because he shouldn't shirk his other household duties and being able to spend quality time with you on weekends too. It is a win for you at least that he doesn't try to guilt you to attend this stuff any longer. Maybe he's starting to get it. 

Lillywy00's picture

I personally think your DH should decline all unilateral decisions BM makes that impact resources in your household 

some of these BMs are using their kids to have their ex (your DH) resources of time and money tied up as a way to turn it into a kid centric operation

However if he agrees then like others mentioned .... do what YOU want to do those days

RockyRoads's picture

He didn't agree to it but it is done. How would I go about telling him that he can't go see his kid play.  I am thinking soon the kids will be no contact . 

Rags's picture

Tell him he is about to not see his wife. Then schedule your life with the things that you want to do. Every single day of every single week.  Give him the schedule two weeks in advance and tell him if he wants to participate to let you know now or he will not have tickets to concerts, shows, museums, events with you and you will be enjoying them alone.  Then, do what you tell him you will do. Go without him. When he starts harping on his kid event, or whining about you not participating immediately interrupt him with a smiling description of how much fun you at at whatever event you were in most recently. Tolerte no interference in your life. He has already chosen the shit puddle of a genetic cesspool of a failed family, an X, and their spawn over you and your marriage. So, prioritize yourself and live your best life.

Same message, very different words.

Lillywy00's picture

I concur. 
 

Can't tell them what to do with their kids. Only thing you can do is control yourself. 
 

Spruce up, go out alone or with a woman who has an ambiguous name so that he thinks another man could steal you from him while he's out chasing validation from his spawns 

MorningMia's picture

This reeks of massive BM game playing and ridiculousness. It's a power play. SO should find a happy medium. BM is going to badmouth him (and skid will go no contact, you believe), anyway.  But if you're going to ride it out, I agree with the idea of you doing something good/fun for yourself vs taking on more housework. 

BranchedBlackSheep's picture

When did it become normal for these kids to play any and all damn sports?! What happened to doing maybe 2 sports and becoming really good at those 2 sports.... When did it become normal for kids to be doing cross country, soccer, football, basketball, baseball and track and field. Like wtf. How do these kids think they are going to be good at all these sports when they don't practice an individual sports long enough to become good at them?

I'm glad you've gotten out of the participating in taking to all practices and games and such. I wish I was able to bail on that more without the guilt trip. On one hand having some Saturdays all to yourself will be beneficial but can make you feel that your life with your SO isn't free for you and him to make plans.

RockyRoads's picture

It has taken a lot for me to get the to point where he has stopped pretty much forcing me to go. I am just disappointed that I had to do Saturday mornings alone all through football season. There was supposed to be a break and now there won't be. It will also be overlapping with tons of baseball practices and it will keep my SO away more then I want. Yes I am selfish but I know life is too short to be wasted on things that are not important. I am not saying kids are not important but his kids don't even like him.  I hate how SS plays so many sports it is unbelievable to me. I can't believe that this seems normal to so many people. Kids should not rule lives.

Rags's picture

In my simple world, never forget that guilt is a choice. So stop that.

Make a better and different choice for you.

RockyRoads's picture

Yes I do know. But things have been a lot better. I do zero for the kids and I am not asked or expected too anymore.  I do always appreciate your opinions.

Rags's picture

It warms my soul that you are getting some improvements.  Stay the course of driving your demands and boundaries iwth your SO.

Take care of you.

Give rose

RockyRoads's picture

I can see that he understands now how his kids are. Even though he won't give up trying he has let me back out of it. I will now hold my boundaries.  I am clear on what I will and won't do. I know there are some things I will have to do to be there for my SO. Like sports banquets where it would be rude of me to let him sit alone. Plus it is a meal and the SS isn't around us at all. And I do have to add SO held his ground with BM on this. She had text him to see if he got the tickets to the football banquet and he said no we went last year and it is your turn. Those are the times that I am proud of him. And he did call her out for signing up for basketball behind his back. I just know he will show up for the games if he can. He is trying but he is in a shitty situation. Yes he contributed to making it shitty and now it is so far in it  it is hard to get out. Unfortunately all I can do is wait until SS goes no contact. Yes it is terrible of me to think like that , but does anyone want awful people in their lives. .  His travel baseball team is also on edge of not having enough player for a team. That would be wonderful if last minute they didn't have one and he couldn't get on another one this late.  Of course my luck isn't that good. 

Dollbabies's picture

this is the same team he wasn't good enough to bat for last year but would be allowed to occasionally pitch for? And now they can't get enough players to field a team.

Talk about irony. Travel teams really are a racket. All that time and money spent to indulge so many parents' crazy dreams of their kid getting a baseball scholarship. 

RockyRoads's picture

Yep. It is the same team.  Alot of the better players quit. There are only 9 and one is on the fence about leaving. If they find enough it looks like SS would probably get to play. But it more then likely won't be a winning team so it won't be good enough for him. SS said he doesn't want to be in the team the following year. He only has two years left anyway. 

RockyRoads's picture

I wanted to add this and I am sure it will make me sound mean and petty. But SO travels for work and I have no problem picking up the slack for that. But I have such a hard time doing it when he is out running SS around. 

Dollbabies's picture

hard on yourself. It sounds completely normal. One is a requirement, the other is choice. 

Yesterdays's picture

Working out of town is providing for you and your family household. It is a beneficial and helpful thing. I pick up slack for my husband too when he has long days. Working hard is a positive and beneficial act. It benefits your household and relationship. You will have more funds which could help with bills, groceries, going out, mortgage.. 

He is running around a kid who doesn't say thanks, is unappreciative and demands he pick him up at the drop of a hat.

I suspect you would have a differing perspective if things were different from the beginning. If your SO had been mindful of your feelings and concerns, if he had not pushed aside your time to attend these things and forced you to go to all of the games.

If... Had he raised a thoughtful kid and addressed some of the kids bad behaviors... Rather than entertaining and allowing all of them. You are feeling resentful of his running around but it's brought on by his own actions 

Rags's picture

I am a solid supporter of no pass no play and firm sportsmanship standards.

Kids who are raised with the delusion that they are special by their mere existence without having to perform at a level that truly is special take away from the experiences of those actually making the effort and doing the work to improve.

Sadly, a massively profitable industry has grow up around those who are not special, do not perform at a notable level, and there are a shit ton of parents who will pay so they can sit with all of the other parents and grin about little Skippy and Skippette and how "spe-cial" they are. You can tell the truly invested parents of kids who are busting their butts to be good at the sport or activity. They are the ones rolling their eyes and turning their heads when the mommies and daddies of Skippy and Skippette are blathering about how wonderful and skilled the barely able to walk without tripping over air kids are. You know, the kids who slouch on their way to the plate for their at bat knowing they have not put in the work to actually be able to hit the ball then harp about how the coach is mean and they are the best but regularly get benched.

These kids and their parents need to watch the movie Rudy.  A based on IRL story about a kid who had zero talent but had heart, grit, showed up for his team, did his part, and did get in the game because he earned the respect of his team mates and his coaches.  Or the movie Greater. Another based on IRL story about a fluffy untalented kid who dreamed of playing for a top tier college team.  He walked on, showed up every day, busted his butt, built his skills and physical prowess, won a scholarship position, captained his team, ended up an All American and top NFL draft prospect.

Special is not always about genetic advantages. It can be about character, commitment, effort and becoming great rather than being born great.  Much of that is not just about the kid but also about their upbringing, having quality parent examples, etc......  Great is not always about being the proverbial "NFL draft prospect".  It can be far more modest than that.  But is is always about doing the work.

IMHO of course.

Sadly there are some truly talented kids raised by shit parents. Those are the kids who get lippy with coaches, show boat, and over an over inflated opinion of themselves and look down on everyone else from their lofty perch of characterless superiority. I can't stand those shit spawn or their parents.

I volunteered as an Umpire for youth baseball leagues during the summers while I was in HS and University.  My tolerance for those kids and their parents was just about zero. I ejected several lippy kids, their lippy idiot parents, and an occasional pushy coach.  There were a number of weekends and tournaments where when I showed up and took my position behind the plate the murmuring would be notable.  I had a number of parents thank me for keeping the shit people and shit kids in their place. I had far more complain about me. Oh well.  Don't be a shit person and don't raise your spawn to be little shits and we won't have a problem.  And yes, I am the one who decides who is shit and who isn't. Just as everyone else has that ability in their own lives.

Pardon

The kids who don't try and then blame everyone but themselves... I can't stand them or their idiot parents either.  Go, participate, be a team player, do your part but do not detract from the experience of all of the other kids or detract from the enjoyment of the quality parents actually supporting their kids efforts, rather than putting on airs.

IMHO of course.

Nea