Okay - Here is what I plan to do so far
First, I spoke too soon when I said the SD wasn't showing up for the mower. She just called H and made arrangements to come for it at 1 tomorrow afternoon. Yeah, I know. But the mower is a real piece of junk so we want it out and this way WE err I don't have to pay someone to haul it away.
Secondly, I made it VERY CLEAR that I do not want her in the house PERIOD. I do not want her in the garage PERIOD. and I want her and Lard Butt and Sock Puppet off my property ASAP. The piece of junk mower is 1/2 way down the driveway now so there is no reason to come further. If any of them have to use the bathroom, TOO BAD.
Meanwhile, H has been fluttering around me all day. He just can't do enough. He actually did 2, count them 2, loads of laundry, dried and FOLDED them!!! WOW!!! AND he even made dinner tonight!
I have had a splitting headache and upset stomach for 2 days now and he is oh so concerned. How bad is it, do you want to go to the ER? Honestly, that nonsense is starting to tee me off.
But I still feel betrayed and
But I still feel betrayed and that is the tough thing to deal with.
So I am going to see the lawyer and talk about how to defend my assest and my mariatal assets outsied of a will from the SD and what is going on. And I will talk about H's somewhat dementia and how SD tried to get him to change his will at the hospital that time, how she has stolen from me etc. Wills are one thing but there may more I can legally do to protect ME.
Like you all advise PROTECT ME.
Forgive me if I jump around because this is all pretty much to take in much less deal with.
Right, now, as I see it, the
Right, now, as I see it, the marriage is over. I am 78 and he is 86. Divorce is an option but at our ages would be very tough on both of us. So if I choose to stick around it will be in name only and with financial things well wrapped up so SD cannot change it in any way. I have over 30 years in this marriage and I am certainly not going to let SD benefit as she so wants to.
Wise choice, imho.
Wise choice, imho.
RAegarding help that 2Tired
RAegarding help that 2Tired referred me to. Wow! There is so much to take in and I don't even understand what some of those agency could do or would do to help us. BUT (and this is a good but) I have it down to go and talk to our County Health Dept. and see if they can help me navigate this road.
One last thing. He went out and took down the box he thought was my pictures. It wasn't. Obviuosly he can't read because the box is well marked NO 9, Frustrated's Family Pictures. So he is going back out to the garage tonight and see if he can find, see it. I could point it out to him, but heck, let him find it and keep looking until he does. Right now he is gong to find that tote even if it takes him forever.
He knows he is on very thin ice with me and that I have had it.
One final comment about the mower. At first I thought she might be too embarassed to show her face around here again. Evidently not, the smell of a free mower for lard baby does it every time. Something for nothing. One thing she has is chutzpa (if I spelled that right). The best thing is that the joke will be on her and lard as the mower is a piece of garbage, needs lots of work, over 20 years old. After she gets that I doubt we will hear from her for a long time. No one would even take it last year when we had it up by the street with a free sign in front of it. As my neighbor told me last year, no one wants old riding mower because they are so expensive to fix up.
You see she actually heard me call her a liar and say that I knew she stole the piece. Daddy didn't stick up for her as he would have done in the past by trying to stop me from saying something like that. You can bet she noticed that especially after she proclaimed (he had her on speaker phone) IS she (meaning me) screaming at me? And H didn't stop me, did nothing, even repeated to her what I had said, verbatium, when she claimed she didn't understand me (another tactic). AND H never charged the battery up for even though she brought up the battery charger. Told her he didn't have time.
So sorry you're going through
So sorry you're going through this, but you are doing the right thing by looking after yourself. Do whatever it is you need to do to protect yourself, find peace, and keep the filthy thief away from you and your home.
That you Mia.
That you Mia.
I want to be calm and factual so I am typing up notes of things for lawyer. You know the saying, act in haste, repent in leisure.
Also, I never asked him were he went that night he stormed out. Never said a word about it. My guess he is probably wondering why I haven't inquired he was probably figuring I would be oh so upset and glad to see him when he came back. The only reason I checked up at the hotel to see if he was there was because I know I would feel awful if anything had happened to him in driving, etc. If he wasns't there I planned to calll police and tell them that he shouldn't be driving etc.
This way if anything happened because he can't drive at night etc., I had at least tried to do something. I think you know what I am trying to say. After that I went to bed and had no trouble sleeping through the night. The situation wasn't of my making.
The most important thing is
The most important thing is that you take care of YOU. The headache and upset stomach may be from stress. Stress can manifest itself in awful ways; none of which are good for you. I wish I could sit in your driveway with a Supersoaker and hose down any if them that put one toe past that damn mower.
Aniki - I wish you could be
Aniki - I wish you could be there to do that too. In fact I took her battery charger and put it out by the cruddy mower tonight (H doesn know) and if someone steals it I don't .
After all, SD, who stole that sundial and now claims 1. She never had it, and 2. it got broke never, ever said she was sorry. It was like too bad, so sad. But that is typial from self-centered greedy people.
Anki - I have been like that
Anki - I have been like that for the last 3 days and today I even feel like a limp dish rag. exhausted.
Stress is a killer. Do not let them kill you with the stress.
I applaud your going for their throats calmly, in a regimented manner, and engaging all of the agencies that can support you in all of this.
If you stay, make sure that you and you alone are entirely in control of everything. While I do not wish that your DH has a life ending health crisis, if you stay, do so to both protect yourself and your DH from his noxious spawn and the GSKid/GSpawn.
Get the authorities so far up SD's ass that they will be able to inspect her teeth from back side.
Manage this and pull SD's teeth so that the only way she can get anything out of your DH is to gum it out.
Be kind to yourself and take care of you.
Thanks Rage.
Thanks Rage.
H has no idea what I have planned and what I am working on and I intend to keep it that way.
I have barely spoken to him and purposefully not stayed in the same room as him. I have nothing to say to him. He, on the other hand, is fluttering all over - can I get you something, oh don't get up, I'll get you that glass of milk. Are you okay, what's wrong, do we need to call the doc. or go to the ER. HE knows he is on thin ice. I never asked him where he went that not, never mentioned it, nothing. Of course he is not volunteering info either.because I know he thinks, I think he went down to SD and I would be upset if he admitted that..
When I see these agencies and the lawyer I am going to tell them about the monetary advances of the SD on H especially re. the will at the time he was i the hospital. How she is alway asking for things free and basically pushes to get them. Especially how she has stolen from us. And that we just have our SS and finite savings at this point in time. How she has never given us anytahing or help $$ or otherwise. That he tends to defend her and give in so what can I do to protect my interests in this marriage out side of just the will.
You know how they talk about narcisistic people being grandiose? Here is a real good example. There was a time after I had knee surgery where she actuall volunteered to help H out rather than him getting outside help. TKR is brutal especially the first few months. We were both surprised.
Everytime she said she was coming up she would cancel. But to me the best one was when she called one day and cancels - "It is because I care so much about you & Frustrated that I am not coming by with this cold." A look, aren't I great and caring because I am staying away because I have a cold, pat me on the back, I am so caring and wonderful. A normall person would have just said they had a cold and were staying home to get rid of it not make a big production of how she is staying home JUST FOR YOUR SAKE.
The one tme of the three days she was suppose to help H, she was expected at 9 didn't show up until 11 and had to leave for something else by 12. H told her not to bother any more which she squealed about how much we needed her help. He never told her that he couldn't count on her. She wasn't interest in helping us out, she was interested in making it LOOK like she was going to help out.
We could have gotten outside help through the hospital quicker if she hadn't "volunteered".
Rage! Lol. That is accurate to what this subhuman hell spawn
Rage! Lol. That is accurate to what this subhuman hell spawn does to you creates in me. And in you I am sure.
Take care of you frustrated78.
Regards,
Rags
Keep us in your head,
Keep us in your head, cheering you on, backing you up, standing along wide you. We are the voices in your head!
It's such a gosh golly gee darn shame you're "too sick to let sluggo and his weirdly criminal mommy into your house, garage, anywhere but the drivway cough cough cough."
And when he comes in singing their praises, be a shame if you cut him off or ignored his praise for his evil spawn and grandspawn.
What my main concern with is
What my main concern with is our IRA accounts. I know that as long as H worked and had a 401k, I had to be the beneficiary because I was his wife and this is the law to keep someone from feezing out the spouse.
But now that they are IRA accounts I am not so certain. That would probably be where SD will start going after.To get her name on those as beneficiary. She can't get at the house or car, etc. And I don't trust her, or him at this stage, dementia be damned.
And the fact that she has already tried for his will AND I have documented her actions on this and the thievery with my Doc last summer and told him she scared the begesus out of me. So there is a record which is good. Believe me when I say you don't know the half of it.
Well, went to the pool but
Well, went to the pool but then assessed the situation as something I could not do as I rely on a cane and witth the water that would be splashed around the pool it would be dangerous for me. Didn't think that one all the way through when I first planned it.
Call the pool and explain
Call the pool and explain your situation. Many places can accommodate wheelchair users so the chances are good that they can help with your situation. When you love water and swimming and floating make you feel good, why give up while there might be a solution?
Bummer - I checked and no
Bummer - I checked and no luck with that.
t this stage in our lives he
t this stage in our lives he needs me more than I need him right now. And while he has been a good guy for most of our marriage, I know that I just don't want to play games with his SD. I don't like what they both did to me, I feel betrayed, but I am looking out for the long run for me. I do know one thing for certain, if I left and he had to rely on her he would be in some home faster than he could say his name. She doesn't want to take care of him or anything, she just wants. And if there is nothing in it for her she will put him out just like she did with her Mother.
How did your meeting go today?
Frustrated, you said you were going to meet with a senior citizen services person today. How did that go?
As per all the good suggestions here, have you scheduled an appointment with your attorney? I would urge you to do so if you have not already.
If I may make one suggestion, please write down the primary issues that you have in a clear, concise way before you have meetings with any legal or medical professionals. Keep the list on important issues and facts, for example:
1. You THINK your DH has dementia. BUT be factual and tell them he does not have an official diagnosis of that yet. (If I understand correctly.)
2. Your DH is susceptible to the influence of his adult daugher, who you do not have a good relationship with.
3. You would like to know how to ensure you & your DH's assets are protected from SD
4. You would like to know how to protect your assets in case YOU are incapacitated for any reason, including temporarily.
This last point is very, very important. While your focus now is on your DH and his status, you have to realize that YOU could also have something happen to you where someone must intervene on your behalf - both medically and financially. Who would that person be?
As myself and others have mentioned, do not be hyper-focused on the sundial, the check, what happend x years ago, and what transpired previously. You have much more important things to think about so focus on that!
I do hope when you post again you will be able to tell us of some solid recommendations from the local senior citizen advocates and your own estate attorney.
2Tired - We must be on the
2Tired - We must be on the same link, the 4 points you have are ones that I have down. I also have down what he said when he stormed, dramatically, out of the house - READ BELOW. Might be something serious, might be just angry but with his "condition" I don't know. And I also have down that I have talked to my Doc. earlier this year about her tring for the wills and other things. She's not worried about helping with medical care, etc. JUST the WILL.
The person with the senior service person I needed to see had called in sick, so it isscheduled to talk to her later this week.
As for lawyers - I am looking at one that deals in Senior issues but he is in another town. I feel that the issues with SD involved in possible asset grabs and what she has already done trying to get into his will, mean I need someone more than the lawyer that did my will. I don't know, but that ismy thinking right now. If you have suggestions I am alll EARS.
As we know, the past with the sundial and gaslighting, and drama, is past BUT it is indicative of what the future holds. SD isn't going to change her spots.
H also has yet ANOTHER Doc apt. with his cardiologist tomorrow. His office is about 45 min. one way so that kind of shoots down the day as far as me getting much accomplished.
I am not deterring on this matter and I believe I have to protect H from his SD just as much as protect me. Believe me, once she gets what she wants out of him she will throw him in a home and, based on past experience, if she called him once or twice a year that would be about it.
FWIW, he is sill keeping low and going out of his way to see if I need anything etc. I still have not asked where he went that night because I know but he doesn't know that I know.
One thing I left out when I posted about him storming out, the I'm divorcing you and you are never going to see me again. He didn't pack any clothes.. Told me he didn't need clothes where he was going. I am sure you get that.
And that is why I started checking around at places I thought he might go - that motel was the first. If he wasn't there I intended to get the police involved telling them he shouldn't be driving, at night, because of his eyesight, about the fight and about what he said. Oh, it did cross my mind, after I knew that he was safe, to call the SD and tell her how he stormed out - Was he down there, and what he said. Freak her sorry but out, as though she would care. Thought about it for a nanosecond, but it is not in my nature to do something like that.
Obviously I am a lot more caring and conscientious than he and SD are.
One of my HS mentors went through something similar.
He married his now widow when they were both elderly. She was with him through illness, caring for him as he did with her.
As his age related mental decline advanced his nephew started getting involved. Eventually the nephew had him sign divorce papers and the nephew went after the resources.
My mentor passed before the divorce was final. There was severe polarization in my mentor's family. I was close with both of my mentor's DD's in HS. I have maintained a friendship with one, the other I have not maintained beyond perfunctory contact with. She is the one that pushed closeness with their father. The one I am closer with maintained a more distant and open minded perspective.
The widow apparently retained all marital assets. Half of his family is irate about it, the other half is supportive of the widow retaining the home, etc....
I hope that you can isolate SD and contain her crap so you and her father can have a peaceful life together.
Wow,
Wow,
Rags, as this old lady understands it, if the divorce is not final then the other partner gets the marital assest and can sue legally for the rest. As the saying goes....it is not over till its over..
If you haven't already get
If you haven't already get POA, at the very least it will cast doubt on anything he signs at a layer date because it implies that he was already not fully able to make important decisions.
That's a good idea. I have a
That's a good idea. I have a medical power of attorney and I really should have the other. Will have to ask the lawyer when I see him.
FWIW, I reread my post here
FWIW, I reread my post here and I seem so calm. I am not, actually. If you look at my typing you can see that.
Tried to work on taxes today but put that aside as I wasn't focusing. And I love dealing with numbers.
This situation is serious for my future and for his.
Take care of you.
Take care of you.
‘’’’ But I still feel betrayed .’’’’
Because you were betrayed. Unfortunately the one you love betrayed you, it's hard to impossible to get over this. Seeing a lawer is a great start . Then you know, bigger still. DH knows you know your rights, as a SO and wife.
Okay - Got something rollling
Okay - Got something rollling. The County Health Dept. is going to come out and do an evaluation of our home to see how we can make things easier as we age more and more. They are coming next week. H. isn't too happy about it but I don't care. I am doing this FOR ME! He is just along for the ride after what he did to me. I can't trust him.
What I am finding frustrating is that talking to him is getting difficult. I will say something to him and he will either respone "HuH", or get a blank look. So I repeat again, and sometimes again changing things to make it simplier. His response then is that he didn't understand what I was talking about. That may be right, don't know. Yet at other times, he is sharp and right on. The latter more often that the former.
I know when we were at the Cardiologist he didn't understand what the doc was saying as he uses medical terms for heart etc. All he knew was that things were going okay with the way he was now. Of course I was there to repeat (in simplier terms) what the doc said.
I DID get that tote!!!!! He mumbled and grumbled after doing so about how much he hurt etc.
Oh, and SD called wanting to
Oh, and SD called wanting to know if we had any extra tires for the lawnmowe as all four were flat. I gladly told her, NOPE, what she got in that mower is what she gets. Felt good.
She is trying to get more from us for Free for Lard Butt while at the same time she was trying to sell H a used rollinator for $85.00.
Okay, had the review with the
Okay, had the review with the health dept. and we pretty much have what they were going to suggest. We have a walk in shower, extra bars in bathroom, grabbers in every room. Last year we put in that vinyl flooring that looks so much like wood, in the kitchen and dining room.
Her main suggestion was to get rid of some of the furniture - like the coffee table etc. which makes the rooms more open. She also recommended some other items that would make hs life easier.
When I orig. talked to her I told her about H.'s possible dementia and if she would watch. Sure enough, when we sit down and talked with her, she asked for our phone number. H got the first 3 numbers out and then went blank. He couldn't remember.
She also took info to see if we qualify for any assistance. I'm suppose to get in contact with her early next week.
I just don't know.
Oops
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Something that my mum had was
Something that my mum had was a necklace that would contact her carers if she had a fall. My DH has a smartwatch that contacts me when he has an accident (he's a keen mountain biker). Maybe there's something your DH could wear for your peace of mind when he's alone.
Did you mention to her that he still drives?
Bummer! Had to cancel my apt
Bummer! Had to cancel my apt. with the lawyer I want to see. The garage door spring broke and we don't have a manual thingy to open it so the car was "trapped" in the garage yesterday and today until they come out to fix it. Grrr. But that is life.
Reschedule and still working on things. STILL waitng for Health Dept.to get back to me.
That is infuriating.
Our garage door spring snapped about a month ago trapping my car in the garage. Fortunately my bride was at work and her car was with her. They ended up replacing the entire door as it was all squeejawed after the spring broke.
I had returned home from a grocery run. I was in the house when I heard a notable noise in the garage. I went out, hit the button to open the door, and it bound. I could close it but it would only open a couple of feet. Our has no way to open it from the outside without an opener. No handle, etc..
Fortunately we rent so a phone call and it was fully replaced before DW got home from work that evening. Fortunately it is tax season and she does not get home until well after 7PM. Otherwise, it would have been a complete PITA.
Deep breaths.
You got this.
I had my first counseling
I had my first counseling meeting and boy am I mad, yes mad. Not at the counselor, but at my H for what he did to me. The gas lighting of 11 years on backking up his D who stole from me. That came out and I couldn't stop crying. His lying about how the thing was still unpacked in the garage when it wasn't, it was in the yard. the covering upo for her every time I tried to confront her about it over the years. Counselor asked me who I thougat he did this. My response is that what SD wants, SD gets.
I also told her about the SD hoovering around H when he was in the hospital for heart issues, trying to get him to change his will! And how she did the sme with me 2 weeks later, telling me we needed the 3 wills, one so she gets everythhing from H, one so she gets from M and a third that, IF we should pass at the same time, she gets EVERYTHING!!
I told her I has spoken to my Doc. about this and she emphasized that was a good thing to have done, and also, should lshe escalate, I could let her know as well.
I also told her how things have changed with H on my part since this happened as I feel totally betrayed and don't trust him with SD is concerned. Also about the dementia he is starting, yelling at tv, not understanding things until I take it aparat and explain it to him, then he make an excuse about why he didn't originally catch on.
Gettingit all out to someone, in person, made me feel good. I also told her I was taking steps with lawyer, etc.
H. doesn't know I saw a counselor. After session I got a drink and went and sat in park until I got my composure back.
As for today? Yet ANOTHER doctor visit for H. This is the seco;nd one this week. It is always the same complaints with him and whatever Docs. do never helps, the meds bother him, he doesn't want to do the exercises because he hurts, and on and on. AND, even more importantly, a lot of the time he doesn't understand what the Doc. says and I have to explain aterwards. I had the original Doc apt. today and he called yesterday to piggy back on it because he NEEDS to see the Doc.
It sounds...
...like this was a rough session for you. Crying can often be cathartic, did you feel relief after? I hope so.
It can really be hard to 'see' the clarity of your truth and realize that people have mistreated you. Remember, you are not accountable for their behavior!
I felt a lot of anger for my husband's family (and still do on occasion) and I realized that anger was hurting me. It was also hurting my relationship with my husband. Instead I attempt the mindset of compassion; their enabling of OSD's behavior and scapegoating me demonstrates how sick they are. They are living a lie, pretending all is well. It isn't. All will never truly be well until they live in the light of the truth and work through the family dysfunction. That is a choice they have to make. The upside...I have choices too. I choose to live in the light of the truth. I choose to return the energy I receive and when that energy is negative, I remain cordial, because I don't play in the dirt. I choose to disengage. I also choose who is worthy of knowing the 'real' me...I am known for being kind, compassionate, and fiercely loyal. They are missing out. This has helped me, I hope perhaps it can help you too....
Blessings to you as you work through this.
Thanks Truie - Yes I felt
Thanks Truie - Yes I felt relieved but also very angry at H. HOW DARE HE DO THAT TO ME!!
I stopped having anyking of relationship with this SD years ago when I found out what she was. I'm done. She had surgery april 1st, which she played victim to my husband about how she was being so mistreated by Doc., therapist, etc. I haven't even bothered to ask how she is doing because I DON'T CARE.
Since she called H up about her victimizationof how she couldn't get into therapy quickly (which turned out to be BS) he hasn't heard from her, nadda, nothing. Of course the fact that I e-mailed her Sock Puppet husband feigning how concerned we were that she couldn't get into therapy for another week or so, and would he do what he could tohelp her with that problem. He emailed back that he wasn't aware that there was any problem with getting her into therapy. Haven't heard from her since.
With her it was the fact that she was alone because Sock Puppet went back to work and wanted the drama she thrives on. So, she calls H and cries and complains about therapy, how the docs didn't give her the right pain killers, and on and on. Of course H gets upset, but you have to understand this is what she does for attention. She lives on attention and DRAMA.
Well, the only one of H's
Well, the only one of H's kids we heard from for Easter was his eldest daughter. She inquired if we were having Easter dinner with the SD as she is so near us. H just said no, but I chimed in saying that we never see her unless she wants something. That didn't seem to surprise elder daughter who evidently has little if anything to do with her either. She didn't even know her sister had the surgery. This elder step daughter is nice, well educated, has a job, a nice family, and you can actually talk to her. Plus, she actually asks how we are doing and whatis going on. Not like the other one who only calls looking for pity and DRAMA and to stir the pot where her siblings are concerned.
This elder daughter, along with my H, paid the funeral expenses for her Mom so she would be properly taken care of. The SD around here was only concerned about jumping on a jet to get down there to see if her Mom had anything of value that she could grab, and H's son was only concerned about the Mom's trailer, where he lived with her.
Meanwhile, dealing with H, having some conversations with him makes me feel like a participant in that old Abbott and Costello classic "Who's on First". I find myself detaching from him, not only for what he did to me, but because I just don't want to go through that carp, if you know what I mean. Yet other times he is sharp as a tack.
ONe time I tried to talk to him and he started that and I just told him I wasn't going to get involved in a "Who's on First" discussion with him as it gets no where.
Oh, and the dishes SD "returned" are GONE. Dropped them off at the local St. Vincent DePaul store. Still have another box to go through. I'm not playing game where she is concerned. I KNOW, and will bet the farm on it, that she will be backing looking for all the stuff. Trust me, she is going to go ballistic when she finds it is gone, but I am just going to let her Daddy handle all that DRAMA. Not my problem.
Why?
April 15 - " ...the fact that I e-mailed her Sock Puppet husband feigning how concerned we were that she couldn't get into therapy for another week or so, and would he do what he could tohelp her with that problem."
Honestly, Frustrated, why did you even send this e-mail to SD's husband? Just to prove that she lies? Well, you already know that. Why bother getting involved with what she says?
I think many here on Stalk have given you sound advice to completely disengage from being involved with your SD, so don't poke the bear!
It sounds like the elder SD is a reasonable person. If I were you, I would be sure to include her in information regarding you/DH so she is aware. Don't waste any more energy and don't get fixated on the lousy SD when there is another SD who might actually be able to help and advocate for you.
I agree, I probably shouldn't
I agree, I probably shouldn't have emailed sock puppet but I was just tired of her calls and being oh so distressed. I can say that when she gets caught in her lies to sock puppet the carp seems to stop for awhile. And, I DID abiet feign, that I only contacted him so he can help her get into a therapist because of what she was telling H.
Yes, I am including elder D in tlhings about H. She was actually touched that I wanted her input on things. She is an RN so I asked if health issues, etc. come up, with either of us, could we contact her for her advice etc. She was really touched by that and said no problem, any time.
Okay, I won't poke the bear unless she starts with me. Then IMHO anything she gets is fair game (no pun intended). She is going to find out that she is messing with the wrong lady. If I really wanted to be nasty and poke the bear, I would tell sock puppet about how she complains about him to H and has actually said she wants to leave him BUT she would have a difficult time finding someone that makes the $$ he does - imagine!
Had 2nd counseling session
Had 2nd counseling session today. Focused on things I have done to protect myself from SD. Of priority is going to be getting financial POA from husband. We are going to work on what I need to do. At my age divorce and starting again is not feasible so I will make the best of it.
You can tell things have changed between H and I on my part particularly.because I still feel betrayed. I told counselor he still has never said anything about that night he left, where he went, etc. I haven't asked him about it either because I know where he went.
Going to work on taking care of ME. It is time.
Also told counselor how H wants me to stop using Insta-Cart which makes things oh so easy for me and even him. Seems he was scared by the guy who delivered the last order - afraid that he would do something to us. Unreasonable? Yes. But that is part of the problem. Am I going to stop? Heck NO. The guy was big with long hair and big beard. If anything he looked a lot like H's Lard Butt grandson.
Keep getting the support you need and boxing out the toxic spawn
Comprehensive POA for sure.
Keep engaging with the therapist. And of course keep engaging things that make it easy on you. Insta-Cart included.
Take care of you.
Well, things are not getting
Well, things are not getting easier with him. I am tired of constantly picking up after him and have told him so. Try to clean and EVERYTHING bothers his lungs, from floor cleaers to vinegar and water. I believe it is all in his mind as when he doesn't see it he doesn't say anything. For instance, I was cleaning the stove with 409 cleaner and he came in the kitchen, sat down at the table for awhile and left and never said a word about smells and his lungs, but he didn't see the bottle. About an hour later he came back in and I had the bottle on the counter top and he asked me if I used it and went into his, oh, my lungs, hack, hack, etc.
BUT, I have met with the lawyer and that is very interesting.
Talked to a qualifed lawyer
Talked to a qualifed lawyer in dealing with seniors about the situation. I told him briefly about the SD and her grubbing for the wills, about us having to have 3 of them so she has no problems. He smiled and chuckled saying the last one about if we both die at the same time she gets everything is "interesting", that he sees she is really trying to get everything in her control.
Fortunately, she can't with the exception of H's IRA portfolio. When it was in a 401k before he retired, once transferred into the IRA he can distribute it on his dath as he sees fit. Luckily the attorney has some ways he can try to protect that from happening.
Still going to the counseling
Still going to the counseling. Right now I am just so pizzed that he did that to me for 11 years! Getting divorced at this stage of life is not something I want to go through again. Divorce is tough.
My attitude has changed. I no longer go out of the way in loving things I use to do. He doesn't deserve it. I also don't intend to put up with any more BS from his daughter. Counselor said the way I was feeling was normal, I had been gaslighted for years and both of them knew they were gaslighting me.
I told the counselor that the SD called earlier that day and was looking to see if we would give our patio furniture to Lard Butt. I picked up the extension and chimed in: "No, we are not giving him the patio furniture, we are old, but her father and I are not dead and still enjoy things in life, incluidng sitting out on the patio." Tlhen hung up, did not slam phone down, just hung up. I didn't yell, raise my voice, etc., just stated what I had to say.
I could hear H trying to calm her down (she generally starts crying when she doesn't get her way, and then gets MEAN) tellling her "yeah, I know....." BUT the outcome is that ole Lard isn't getting the patio furniture or anything else. H didn't even come out and tell me that I was rude to her, being mean, etc. like he would do in the past. In fact, he agreed that we still do use the patio furniture so why would we give it away.
He knows things have shifted with me and I know it bothers him but it is not up to me to make things right, if that can be done.
Counselor asked why I felt it was necessary to get in the conversation between him and her. I told her SD has a way of working on her Dad, cajoling him into what she wants - she is manipulative in getting things. If she had goten him to agree with her, then it would have ended up in a fight between H and I, and I have had enough of that, so I nipped it in the bud, so to speak. After the sundial incident, she knows all that happened there and how she, too, kept dening she had it. I am not going to let either of them dupe me again.
What was he going to do, yell at me and walk out? To where? Lard and the SD don't want him, he's old and needs attention and care. I think he knows I am all he's got.
That incident is over, done, but I am not going to let her do something like that again. Let Lard buy his own patio furniture.
One upside, maybe, H mentioned we haven't heard from SD in weeks until she wanted something. Maybe he is catching on and starting to feel a bit used in his old age. Don't know.
One more thing, counselor told me to mark down this incident of calling wanting us to give her son furniture that we were still using as it adds to the pattern. H and I have never gotten anything from the SD or Lard Butt, never taken us out for a burger, show, shopping, nadda.
One more thing the counselor
One more thing the counselor pointed out that I knew, but hearing someone else say it helped. That is that just because SD is H's daughter and Lard is his grandson (who never bothers with us) neither of us owe them ANYTHING. AS I responded to this, there are too many of those investment services ads telling "you" how you need to leave your kids, etc. set for life. Which IMHO is bull.
I know a couple that really needs to go into assisted living but can't. Why? Seems they gave their money to help their out their kids in buying homes, etc. Now they are doing the best they can. One thing though, the kids do help them out.
Working on that POA for H.
Working on that POA for H. Many times he is as sharp as a tack at other times, well not too much. Lately he is becoming more and more confused about things. He watches a lot of news programs and can't keep things straight. The other day he kept insisting to me that Iran was meeting with Putan in Turkey. I said, no, it was Ukraine but H kept insisting. He never did get it straight and it can be totally confusing to try to understand and talk to him at times. Today he says that Trump is going to the Capital Building to meet with the Govenors. I didn't know what he was talking about and finally figured out he was talking about the House Representators and Senators.
Three times in a row he asked me what time it was. I answered him the first time, then he asked again about a minute later, and I responded, only to have him ask me again immediately. When I said he asked me the same thing 3 times and I had answered him, he claimed I didn't.
I am keeping notes on this and the other strange things he does, like with the chicken bones, where he won't throw them in garbage can, but has to wrap them in aluminum and keep them in refrig. until the night before garbage collection. Why, you ask? Because they would stink if he throws them in big covered outside can. BUT, has no problem throwing rib bones and other garbage out, just specifically chicken bones.
I am holding on because if this stuff continues it will help me get that POA and totally shut down the SD. I do feel terrible thinking like this, but I do have to take care of myself.
Yesterday was our 31st
Yesterday was our 31st anniversary. H gave me flowers and a card that, in the past, I would have thought nice, but I didn't, I saw it as sappy, he KNOWS I have changed though I haven't said anything about it too him. Why bother.
I get upset that he did that carp to me and has never apologized or actually acknowledged what he and SD did together!
AT times I feel I shouldn't feel like this, but then heck, I sure as h*ll deserved better that what they did tome. It is not about the sundial, it is about his actions and deceptions.
He did start talking about how is is concerned that SD will never forget that I took the money she offered. He guaranteed that. He is concerned that because I did that she won't help me out when he is gone! I sat him down and told him point blank that she has never helped us out all this time and she isn't going to later whether he is here or not and he has to face and understand that. That is why I am working on getting other support for us.
After years I can tell you how it will go down for Father's Day. FD will come and go and H will not hear from her until, oh, 2 or 3 days after. Then she will call and tell him how she "Forgot it was Father's Day", boo hoo hoo. Shenever sends a card because they cost $$. H, who would be feeling bad that he didn't hear from her, will then forgive her and the cycle will start all over again.
I use to celebrate Father's Day, fuss over him so he wouldn't feel bad even though the oldest daughter always remembers and calls. After all he put me through I could care less. NMP.
The fact that I have gotten to that points makes me feel bad, if you know what I mean.
Yes.
The fact that I have gotten to that points makes me feel bad, if you know what I mean. Yes, I do know what you mean. I am sorry it has come to this for you. I hope you will be able to focus on things that interest you, or cultivate new interests! Do you like to read? How about a book club? Volunteer at church? During school you could be one of the 'Grandmas' who visits and reads to the kids. (I find volunteering at school very rewarding. I love the little ones!) Do you like to cook or bake? Try new recipes! (You can always share goodies with your neighbors!) What about lighing a candle, listening to classical music, and taking a bath? Whatever it is that interests you...do it! Put yourself first and be good to you!
Trudie - I am an avid reader
Trudie - I am an avid reader and love to do needlework. This keps me somewhat busy so I don't have to deal with H. Isn't that sad. That 31 yrs. of marriage has come down to this?
Financially, because we have the house and some savings, we are not eligible for any kind of assistance because we are slightly above the requirements. Bummer.
We do have good neighbors who help us out. This holiday weekend the one neighbor trimmed the hedges for us. They too are wondering where H's daughter is. Wasn't she suppose to help us out in our old age? H makes up some lame excuse for her, but I tell the truth whether he likes it or not.
They do find it strange that the SD never comes around and they never hear us talk about her stopping by for, oh, Christmas, etc. (not that I would want her). They did, however notice she was here weeks back with a trailer and took our old lawn mower and bagger but that was that. H was p*zzed when I stated that was the only thing she came by for because she wanted it for her son. Hey, too bad. The truth is the truth. My lady neighbor was appalled by that.
We live on a cul-de-sac so it is easy to see when someone is around.
Be careful with the class grandma volunteer thing.
My mom volunteered at my Niece and Nephews elementary and middle schools as the class Grandma. She did it for a number of years until she had enough of the teachers pawning all of the grunt work, class room set up, kid oversight, and recess monitoring off on mom and the other GrandMa volunteers while the teachers stood at the side gabbing. blabbing, surfing their phones, etc, etc, etc... She finally had enough and walked off of the recess play ground, gave the teacher gab gaggle a piece of her mind, went straight to the principal's office, gave them a piece of her mind, then went to the school board. That caused a shit storm that lasted for the next couple of years as the teachers taking advantage of the class volunteer Parents and GPs was greatly curtailed.
Caution and discretion are the better part of valor in the school volunteer arena. Apparently.
Today's argument with H is
Today's argument with H is about hiring someone to help out with housework, say every 2 weeks at first. He is dead set against it. My plan, if he doesn't settle down about this, is to actually call the Dept. of Health and tell them that H won't help keep house clean, throws things on floor and leaves them until I clean it up and it is difficult for me.
This AM, with me in the kitchen watching, he made himself some eggs and dropped one of the eggs on the floor. He just LEFT IT THERE!!! and containued. Yeah, I know it is difficult for him to bend down, but it is difficult for me also. I was the one that cleaned it up He won't load or even empty the dishwasher any more because he hurts. I do it, carefully, but I can do it.
And, forgive me here, I am just so tired of hearing him grunt and groan in pain every time he moves. I hurt too, but I don't vocalize it, just deal with it. No wonder his D doesn't want him. Now, if he had a lot of $$ and there was a chance she could get at it she would be falling all over H, and even me.
Is his reluctance based on
Is his reluctance based on financial strain in your household budget? Or is he reluctant to let a stranger in the home? or is it some other reason?
I will say, both of the above can be valid reasons. For the first, financially, is this something you could afford together.. or if this labor is all falling on you.. are you willing to pay it out of your own funds.. if he can't. Secondly.. if there is concern about theft etc.. ensure you are hiring someone licensed and insured in your state.
On a related note though.. neither of the examples you gave would be much helped by a bi-weekly housekeeper. You can't let a broken egg sit on a floor for up to two weeks when they come to clean. Same goes for the dishes and dishwasher.. that's a daily (or at least almost daily) need to be done.. and falls into the category of self sufficiency tasks.
And.. both people in a household don't have to be capable of doing these self sufficiency tasks.. My MIL functions mostly for her DH who has much more severe arthritis.. he does do his own dishes (no dishwashers here.. our home and theirs next door..are wash by hand.. ooh my back..lol) and... does it suck when one partner gets older and can't be independently self sufficient? yes.. it does.. and sure..at some point that may mean that they need to get some help (paid or otherwise) or downsize homes..
And.. as far as your DH's mobility and ability to be active.. definitely something that should be addressed with his doctor. Would his doctor suggest he start walking to help keep more active?
and.. would you be more willing to cook his meals.. or clean up after him.. unfortunately.. you may have to choose... he may truly have more difficulty than you do with certain tasks.. and that sucks it falls on you.. but sometimes that happens in life. My dad was saddled with caring for my mom for many years with dementia.. it was hard on him.. and eventually he did make the decision to put her in a home.. which was costly.. but saved his quality of life at that point.
I guess it's like the saying..
Of the three things "cheap, good and fast".. we can onlly get two.. cheap and good.. won't be fast... fast and cheap.. won't be good... good and fast... won't be cheap.
in your case if he helps..it won't be neat.. and you will have to clean or hellp clean.. if you do it.. it will be cheaper than hiring someone.. but it also won't be done as timely .. so you have to figure out which option works best for you... allowing that none of the options are liable to be perfect.
My parents have a service and the same concerns.
So, they are always home when the cleaning service is in their home. The service has zero access to the home without being let in.
It saves a ton of tension and drama. The service does the floors, dusting, cleans bathrooms, windows, etc....
I think it's tough for a lot
I think it's tough for a lot of older people to admit when they need help.. then they worry about how much it will cost.. whether they can trust the people etc...
I know that prior to my dad having caregivers in his home.. my DH and I did a bit of a run through.. taking pictures of things/rooms.. and looked for valuables etc.. Fortunately, my dad really didn't keep cash.. no jewelry.. so there was not much to worry about there... he is a private person.. but when he got so sick he was bedbound.. he basically had no choice.. he needed the help.. then when he improved.. the seal was broken so to speak.. it wasn't as much of an issue.
In OP's case.. the problem I see is that in the kind of thing she uses as an example.. cleaning people aren't going to generally help with that.. not unless they are daily home aides... someone who comes every day to take care of their day to day needs.
Now, that doesn't mean that OP hasn't gotten to the point where she needs help keeping up with the regular deep cleans.. just like they may eventually need assistance with lawn work.
Given their age.. I'm fairly certain her DH probably sees cleaning as her role.. and he does the outside the house stuff.. but if it's getting to be too much for her.. then she should be able to hire help in if it's affordable for them. If "they" can't afford it.. she did mention the money from her inheritance.. she can offer to pay from that to give herself a needed break.
Hopefully OP can get it worked out in a way her DH will not balk
Hopefully OP can get it worked out in a way her DH will not balk at.
I have considered getting someone in twice a month for the floors, dusting, bathrooms. The cooking, kitchen, laundry, etc... are not an issue for us.
My bride is a keep and go through every piece of paper ID theft concerned individual who removes names and addresses from every single piece of junk mai before pitching itl. I pitch just about everything with little more than a perfunctory glance. In my brain, trash is trash and it goes in.... the trash. It does not get a high level of analysis.
ESMOD - I have reread your
ESMOD - I have reread your remarks here several times and pondering them, which is a good thing.
I have to face it, H is not going to get better at his age. It is just the arguing with him to at least pick up after himself and stop giving me static about trying to get help.
One thing that may change his mind is that I did hire that young man to help out in the yard - straighten out the potting shed, etc. He's 15 It was so unbearably hot, windless, humid today he was sweating a storm at 10:30 so I told him to come back in the evening and he may want to come by early in the morning when it is not as hot and humid.
H is estatic. He was out there with the young man and singing his praises about what a good worker he was. Now I am hoping to go from there. Cross your fingers.
Well played DH!!!!! Errr, I mean, well played frustrated78!
Though for different reasons in different situations I have done this a couple of times in our marriage. I have a very highly developed tolerance for clutter. Until I don't. Then it is no longer clutter because it goes away.
If it is asked about, I admit to what happened to it. If it is not asked about, I do not mention it.
I do not get rid of anything that could even remotely be
That you are taking direct effective action and DH is enjoying the company of your helper, is a great win.
Don't forget to compliment DH on "his" great idea.
I now have that money I
I now have that money I inherited all safely invested in my name alone. I never comingled the funds and never will. Inherited money is NOT considered joint assets unless you comingle the funds. H is upset that I have done this. To bad. I am protecting myself in case his crazy daughter gets some bug up her butt when he passes, and she will. Who inherits this money is in my will.
Protecting myself.
Yeah, H gave me a whole litenany of why I should put it in joint names. I just gave him one reason, his ghoul of a daughter - end of issue. I am so pizzed I didn't even put him as beneficiary on it. I told him it would be distributed according to my will. He'll get over it.
Well played and well communicated.
I discussed this issue with
I discussed this issue with the counselor yesterday. H could do a lot more, he just would rather moan and groan and be flat out miserable.
He doesn't want ANY ONE to come into the house. As I said earlier, he wanted me to stoop using Insta-Cart because he didn't like the looks of the one delivery guy, claimed he scared him. BS. The guy looked and had the built of H's grandson Lard Butt. You know, long greasy hair, beard, heavy, looks like Big Foot.
I got fed up yesterday morning when, once again, H cluttered the kitchen table with all kinds of carp, the newspaper he was finished reading, junk mail that I just throw out but he insists on shredding sometime, his medicine bottles, which he won't put away. I just walked in and swopped it all off on to the floor so I could have a place to eat MY breakfast. THAT got his attention. After b*t*ching at me about what I just did, which I totally ignored, he cleaned it all up. Yes, he was able to get down and pick it all up. The only thing I said was that if he put it back on the table I was swopping it off again, so he put it away or threw it out. I finished breakfast and went out for the day and had a nice time.
Counselor said I must have really been upset by that and I told her he does it all the time and leaves ALL the messes to me, inside or out. He hurts, his hip, his lungs, his heart, and the list goes on. Sounds like his daughter with all her aches and pains.
I said that he was only there because of my graciousness. I had never told her how he was a drama queen, just like his D, that night he got mad at me told me he was going to divorce me and left. When I asked him where his bag was, he told me that where he was going he wouldn't need any extra clothes. As I told the counselor, it was as though he was threatening me with doing something to himself. This all because of what he and his daughter did to ME. That is why I called the local motel and found out he had checked in there. Oh the drama. He wouldn't go to his daughters because of night driving and, most importantly, she doesn't want him. No bucks, no Dad. Nothing in it for her.
Folks, I am hanging in, and doing things to try to make my life better. But I can tell you that the thought of divorce came up at that counseling meeting.
Today he is fixated, again, on the heat pump, is it running right, the thermostate isn't working (he claims) The sytem is not even 2 years old. Been through this before with the system in the winter. There was nothing wrong with it.
All this aggrevation because he talked me into moving down here because his daughter convinced him that she would help us out in our old age. We alll know how that is going. Hindsight is always 20/20.
I guess his daughter has called hima few times, or emailed him, don't care, and told him how she goes over to Lard's place and paints the walls for them, her and sock puppet are tearing down an old shed with him, etc. All the things we could use that he asked for help and she was always too busy or never showed. BUT, she wanted to be in control of our wills! The greedy money grubbing ghoul. When H has told me about this, I just say, "Oh, that's nice" or nothing at all. He has to know that she is rubbing it in, if it is even true as she just had that knee surgery April 1. She is a major BSer especially if she thinks she can make him, and me, feel bad.
His delusion here is that he keeps believing she is going to show up and help us out. After all, YEARS ago she said she was going to. In all these years she has NEVER taken us out for a burger, shopping, show, NOTHING. And that was when she thought she was going to get everything from us. Now that she knows otherwise, why on earth does he want to believe she will change is beyound me.
Sorry to expound all this.
Sorry to expound all this. The fact is that I just don't trust him anymore, and triple that if he is in contact with his daughter. I feel trapped because of my age, etc.
You know he has never ONCE apologized to me for what he and his D did to me. Especially the gaslighting of over 11 years. He knew I knew she had the piece but rather than get it back chose to tell me I was wrong, it was still packed away in the garage.
NOW, it is not about the sundial as much as it is the coniving and lying of him and his daughter to me.
I know I have to work this through, but the fact that I deal with him every day doesn't make it easier or quicker.
It sounds like your Counselor
It sounds like your Counselor is seeing some of your reactions as being "outsized" to the issue you are actually dealing with. IE swooping things onto the floor.. vs just pushing them aside to make room for yourself. I think her questions were that your reaction wasn't normal to seeing a cluttered space.. so there must be some other underlying issues.. which there ARE..
I have to say that you have a few options here.. and only you can decide what is most palatable for you. Unfortunatelly, with your husband's health and mental state.. what you want to "be" may just not be possible.
First, you can leave.. old age be damned.. you can make a new life.. and let the chips fall where they may with your DH and his daughter. Might it be a life that is more frugal? maybe in a different area? sure.. but if living with him is impossible and making you act out in ways that are not totally appropriate.. you need to do that .. before you lose your cool and your swooping things onto the floor becomes a more physical issue.. like something hits him.. he calls the police and you are arrested.. and all for some stuff on a table? And.. he has already gotten to the point where HE has left your home.. it could happen more frequently. and he could leave you. period.. as hard as it is to take.. you cannot stay there and continually punish him for things.. all you are doing is making BOTH of you miserable by doing that.
Second.. you somehow get him to go to counseling.. you get to a point where you CAN forgive and get past what is the past.. and figure out how to live together.. without constantly harking back to old hurts.. I know this may be difficult since he may not be totally mentally with it.. but the way things are going now aren't sustainable for either of you.
I understand and I may have
I understand and I may have been dramatic when I said swooped. Bad on me for being dramatic on that. Don't worry isn't going to get hurt by anything I actually pushed off the table. I had also cleaned the table of his carp 2 the day before.
The table cluttering is constant for H lately. Trust me, if you were already badly wounded, as I am, and he kept up the nonsense he does, the table, the heat pump (nothing wrong with it, HAV was out this morning). That is in H's head. He is convinced that the dining room chair, which is just a simple ladder back, no cushion, and is in the middle of the floor pushed up to the table, which is in the middle of the dining room IS the reason the "thermostate isn't working right". It is keeping the cool air from giving a correct reading on the thermostate. You should have seen the look the HAV guy gave me when H spouted that. A, is this guy for real? look.
He had a cognizant test by our family doc and passed that abiet he was really watching and listening; but this is the type of crazy stuff I put up with. Like the chicken bones he refuses to put in the trash but wraps them and puts them in the fridge until the night b4 garbage collection. Not rib bones, not beef bones, just chicken bones. Why? Because they stink if he were to put them in the outside garbage before that. I am not kidding about that. It is the strangest thing he has started doing.
His latest, this AM? He is going to get our energy usage down below everyone else in the area. Our home is already one of the most efficient, according to the report Duke Energy sends out. He is going to get it down if he has to turn off EVERYTHING I guess. Lucky me.
Don't even think about
Don't even think about getting him to couselling. If he knew I was he would have a fit. He considers it waste of time and money.
He left the home because he
He left the home because he was caught in colussion with his D in gaslighting me for YEARS. If you are looking for a drama Queen it is him. The, I don't need to take any clothes, etc. with me because I WON'T NEED THEM line.
Some times I think he is acting out because lhe didn't get the reaction out of me when he came home the next morning. I was suppose to be in tears, up all night and oh so glad he didn't do what he threatened. His let down was that I was asleep and not wringing my hands in despair etc.
And like you say ESMOD, my options due to his health, age etc. are limited and that is weighing on me now too.
It sounds like he is having
It sounds like he is having some cognitive issues for sure. Though.. I do keep some things in the freezer or fridge instead of putting them in the garbage where they will quickly smell.. chicken is one of the worst too.. shrimp/seafood shells.. also.
I think my point re the swooping is that yeah..it's not just the clutter that you are mad at.. you are mad at the constant grind of it.. and when our frustrations get the better of us.. we can act out of line for the individual situation.. and I know you don't want to keep doing things like that.. and keeping your own self all bound up.
Maybe you do need to go to seek some legal counsel..maybe divorce is what you need to do for your own sanity. A lawyer well versed in issues with the elderly might help you figure some of the issues out..
Because living in a constant mode of defense.. with frustration simmering at the surface.. It could put YOU in an early grave.. and it doesn't have to be that way..
I also understand that where you are with him and his mental state is in kind of that in-between state.. some things he does.. just lazy... being cluttered.. some things are his mind not processing perfectly.. but sometimes? he is fine right? it's not easy to just label him as demented.. because he still has a lot of his faculties still about him.
Your focus needs to be on figuring out what your options are.
what do you have control of.. what do you have to accept.. what can you fight for.. and what is just not worth it.. and walking away.
Rather than swooping it onto the floor, bag it and trash it.
That way it is easy on you to recover it. I learned this early in our marriage. DW had subscriptions to several fashion magazines. We had hundreds of them. She kept them in a large goat/sheep and rice middle east cooking pot that I had from my parents or GPs. She never tossed them and insisted on keeping them for later. She never once dug any of htem out to re-read. She would read them in detail several times when they arrived, then in the pot they went. She left for a SpermLand visit once and I refinished her antique Lane hope chest that her GM gave her. After I refinished it the garage I moved it into our LR and needed the space so I dumpted all of the fashion mags and moved the cooking pot to the foyer for shoes.
Bad move. She got angry with me for tossing her mags. So, I had to dig themn out of our huge trash can. I put them neatly in 50gal garbage bags and put them in our guest room/study. Eventually she tossed them having never once looking at any of them after the month they arrived.
So, swoop it all into a trash bag, toss it on the floor, and eat lunch. Same message, more controlled trash it step.
Rags, I just let him deal
Rags, I just let him deal with the stuff I pushed off the table. He is capable, to a point. Maybe if he picks is stuff up a few times he will put it away so he doesn't have to hurt stooping down to get it again.
Thanks ESMOD That is what I
Thanks ESMOD That is what I have been working on. Things take time, sorting out what to do IS a BIG thing. Putting up with the things I mentioned above also doesn't help. Been to the lawyer about wills and making certain that SD can't get to them and leave me with just the proverbial barrel.
BTW, we are not talking about just throwing those chicken bones in the kitchen garbage, but throwing them along with the other kitchen garbage in the outside, tightly lidded can. And I am not even going to try to explain his obsession about keeping plastic bags from the grocery store. Trust me, it would drive any one nuts. At times it seems like he just want to hoard them.
THIS stuff is why SD was fluttering around him that day in the hospital. It wasn't about his health etc., it was what she could get. She isn't living rent free in my brain, but when she surfaces or H starts talking about her I listen carefully, H is generally a softie, SD is a manipulative money grubbing, greedy ghoul.
Fortuately the salt around my property is working and she hasn't been around....no, just kidding about the salt, but don't I wish. She hasn't been around since the lawn mower incident and hasn't called since the day she got H all upset with her poor me, the bad doctors, the therapist won't see me, and all her other catterwailing, and the call to make a play for our patio furniture. My guess is that after she had to fork out that $$ to me she is totally pizzed and sulking to see how she can get even. It is kind of like international situations, I don't bother BUT if her name comes up, I listen quite intently abiet I don't say anything so I am aware of what is going on especially with H as he is.
ESMOD - H has no problem
ESMOD - H has no problem throwing seafood things in the trash. It is just the chicken bones.
And like you say, one never knows who he is going to be at any time, lazy, demented or normal. Just that keeps me, oh what word do I want to use, maybe super alert. That is why I watch out for the SD, she knows his mental status and is just waiting like a spider on a web.
I got myself a big puzzel to work on the table in the sunroom which is out of the way. Nine will get you ten that he starts moaning at me when I put the fan on out there as it is going to be in the 80's today.
As I say, I am not just
As I say, I am not just sitting here steaming, but trying to figure things out.
The other day when we went to Wal-Mart, H saw a sign for a handy man and copied down the number. A check with our neighbor who told us there were a lot of folk by that last name in area so she didn't know anything.
Well, H called and left a message. A few hours later he get a call from this guy in response so H tells him what we need to have done (of course I am listening because we all know how H can go). The guy we were talking to had to talk to someone else in the background, giving him details etc. Hmmm. I also noticed that the number this call came in on was not the number H originally called and asked only to be told that we had called one of their various numbers. Hmmm again. H arranged a time for him to come out today, but I had my suspicions. Like why did everything have to go through this party and be repeated to the so-called handy man instead of just giving him the phone, and other things.
Yesterday, after talking to H about my not feeling right about this guy, we called the number they called from only to find that it was hone, has no message box. I am confused about this because H left a message the first time and when I called to cancel the service said there was no voice mail, not that it was full, but there was NO voice mail associated with that number. So I called the original number and left word that we had changed our minds. This dude was to meet with us at 1 p.m. today and right around that time some older truck did a few, several runs around our cul-de-sac going slow as though he was looking for an address. But never stopped, went slow when he went by (could see him out the window).
When I went out for mail I mentioned it to our great neighbor and she, too, thought is strange. But, knowing that we needed some help in things, had talked to a friend of her's who has a 15 year old boy who wants to make some $$ this summer. Kid is too young to work, doesn't have a driver's license yet but wants to earn some money. Even better is that he is only about 2 long blocks away.
I am exchanging numbers so I can get some help with things around the yard, garage, etc. Maybe even get some help washing down the kitchen walls, supervised, of course, which I have wanted to do for a couple of years now.
Time will tell.
This so called handy-man made me think about the time I grew up and lived in the Chicago area, the scammers would show up in the summer. They called them gypsies as they were not from around the area. You had to be careful because they, well, one would be working and the other sneaking into your looking for stuff to steal.
One scam I remember, because a neighbor fell for it, and he was not dumb. It was when a guy approached hm about resealing his blacktop driveway. Claimed he had just done one near by and had extra product and would give my neighbor a good price. Neighbor agreed and the "sealer" was put on the driveway which looked good at first, but never seem to dry, and pretty much washed away after the first good rain. The neighbor had no recourse because the contact info he was given was not valid. Never forgot that.
In fact the local Chicago news shows would always have warnings to the public when these folk were in town because of the calls to police etc.
Moral, you gotta be careful and doubly so when you are older.
I bought this neat ladder
I bought this neat ladder that is more like walking up stairs and climbing up a ladder, has hand rails on side. Much more secure. I go up a few steps on it to get things done, but am a tad nervous about going higher. If the young man is agreeable to doing the walls, that is what I would have him use rather than just a step stool..safer.
Like I told H. Treat him well and he'll be glad to come around and help us even when he turns 16. He obviously had ambition, something that is sadly lacking in a lot of the young and other people these days as we all know.
This will be his first jobs if it works out. I am thnking about paying about $10-15.00 an hour depending on the job. What do you say on that? We are in southeastern IN. Don't want to underpay, but don't want to overpay either a youngster either...want to be fair but I am not McDonalds etc.
As you can see, I am still pizzed, but trying to find ways to help us out. But at least something MAY be accomplished. Won't have to depend on H to do anything whether he can or not and listen to him bleat about his hips, his lungs, his heart, his knees etc. I honestly believe from watching him etc., that YES he does have problens but no where near what he likes to bleat about. For example, he could have cleaned that darn egg he dropped off the floor, IMHO, he just didn't want to, leave it for me.
As for finances - H will go through 3-4 eggs before he finds one he wants to use. The rest will have some kind of problem according to him...aka, it didn't look right and on and on. Bread is getting to be another interesting item. He either wants to through it away the day after I purchase it because it is "OLD and STALE", or wants to hang on to it when it starts getting moldy and I throw it away.
Deep breaths and stay the course.
I hople things settle for you soon with all of this and DH reconnects with reasonable.
FWIW, H's daughter never
FWIW, H's daughter never bothered with him for Father's Day. Am I surprised? Nope. She will probably call tomorrow or Wed. and give him some story about how she just forgot it was Father's Day, but isn't it nice that she called now.
I hope I am the one that gets to answer the call because I intend to tell her Father's Day was last Sunday and hang up. Enough BS is enough BS. I know H felt bad because of how he was acting/
She has done this for years. Several years back I ran into her Sock Puppet and her at Wal-Mart and remarked to him how H didn't get a call from her on Father's Day and was hurt. His response was just to look at me and shrug his shoulders. THAT spoke volumes.
I called my dad. My nephews and niece all either
saw or called my brother. DW and I reached out to her brothers to wish them a HFD.
My brother hosted my mom and dad at their club for FD.
Our son called me. Several friends and I traded HFD messages.
It does not take a massive effort. All it takes is contact. Most dads and moms do not expect or require some high level worshipful gathering on FD or MD. Just a call. Or a card. Or both.