Blended families here with blended RELIGIONS?
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My skids have a different religion. BM is extremely religious. I was born catholic, but I consider myself now an atheist.
At breakfast yesterday, I had a giant Belgian waffle. SD7 ( mini BM and BM's spy ) glared at me, made the ugliest face ( not hard to do, with THAT face ) and snarled at me that I am " breaking Passover and I am going to tell my mommy " . Hey kiddo. Epic fail. I am not jewish LOL, so just be quiet and eat your mozza or whatever it was.
I ordered a second waffle.
We don't practice any
We don't practice any religion in our home. To our knowledge, neither does BM.
If my skids ever said anything like that to me I would give them a quick lesson in the First Amendment.
We're Pagan. BM3 is
We're Pagan. BM3 is Christian. We celebrate our holidays in our home, but we do not force my bios or stepkids to participate. They make their own religious choices. That said my kids are all Pagan except for my oldest bio daughter. She is a Christian and has attended a Christian church with her grandmother since birth. My youngest stepdaughter is also a Christian, and DH makes her available to attend church with her mother and that side of the family whenever they bring a Christian holiday to his attention.
This honestly sounds like
This honestly sounds like normal 7 year old behavior, not to dismiss your annoyance. I think if it happens again I would just explain that everyone has a right to believe in and celebrate in their own religion, or none at all.
oh man oh man. We are
oh man oh man. We are atheists, but we celebrate the random holidays simply for the fun. Bm is a jehovah's witness. SKs live here, but the brainwashing began so early with them. It is all quite sad. One kid got in trouble in kindergarten for telling everyone they were Satan's people and going to hell because they said the pledge. We have been called every horrible thing you can think of for having a christmas tree... It has been a wild ride over the years
We let the kids choose for themselves. Our only rule is you will never be disrespectful of someone else's beliefs, and you can not witness to us. For the most part they are pretty good. They always choose to participate in holidays. It does totally suck for them though bc BM makes them feel horrible for anything that they do. There is a lot of guilt from my knowledge with that religion. It also is hard on them bc DH and I are very politically involved people. They really get into it (student council and such) but BM, instead of being proud of them being on student council, makes them feel bad for it. it's quite a mess
HMMMMMM! Sounds a lot like
HMMMMMM! Sounds a lot like my BM! Religion and all!
DH is an Atheist Jew and I am
DH is an Atheist Jew and I am catholic. We celebrate all the catholic holidays with a dinner and my son and I go to mass. Passover and Hannukah are celebrated by all of us for the heritage of it. DH lost family in the holocaust and feels it is important to the kids. They do not go to Synagogue. It works well for us. Last year our Christmas cards said Merry Chrismakkuh...
My DH was Catholic and upon
My DH was Catholic and upon his divorce (no annulment) he has been shunned by the church. BUT EVERYONE on his family's side is Catholic (save one brother who converted to Lutheran to marry). My step kids were sprinkled baptized when they were born. But BM does not practice....I laugh inside every time 16yoSD says, "WE are catholic." Referring to herself and her siblings,...
When I served meat on Friday. (Which I've done several other nonmeat Fridays-This one she just remembered).
Um,... The kids are NOT members of any catholic church, do not attend MASS. The last time they were in a Catholic church was at their great grandmother's death,...before that great grandfather's death,...
But BM has brainwashed them that they are "Catholic",... I think it will be hilarious in a few years when SD wants to get married and finds out that no catholic church in this area will marry her because she never went to religion class, confession, first communion,... But they are "catholic",....
We still celebrate otherwise Christian holidays, and my husband and I attend a Christian church, which we both have been baptized in. The kids come with us most of the weekends they are with us-by their choice.
We are not religious, but if
We are not religious, but if we wanted to be DH would be Episcopalian and I would be Jewish. One Sunday we do NOT go to his church, the next Saturday we do NOT go to my temple
Both bios and skids are atheists.
The funny thing is, my ex married a woman who is trying very hard to be as Jewish as she can be. She had him add to our divorce agreement a clause that the father will get the kids for every Jewish holiday - which he poo-poos every year. He can't find a holiday he wants to celebrate with them, i suppose! My Ex does not take them for Christian holidays either, or if at times he does, he tries to make it so that we are as inconvenienced as you can be ( like telling the kids, "I am picking you up at 8 am on Xmas morning" - even my DH, who is completely conflict-averse, rose up in arms against that! We celebrate Xmas, for crying out loud...)
So it is all fun and games, but i have to tell you, if my ex or SM had tried to inject religion into my kids' lives in any big way, I would have a HUGE problem with that. Rightly or wrongly, I would not go along. Happily godless is my way of life, and for as long as they live with me... thanks, but no thanks.
You also might mention that
You also might mention that the Jewish religion does not have a Heaven but they do have a place called Sheol which from what I've read sounds like Hell to me. Others will tell you the Jews have no afterlife at all. Punishment and reward are doled out during ones lifespan.
Most atheists are actually agnostic if you question them. They believe in a higher being just not one that's active in ones life. Nor do they need a organized religion to access that being should they find themselves in a foxhole.
Mozza - Lol! I think you may
Mozza - Lol! I think you may have meant matzo.
I'm not Jewish, but work for a Jewish Agency.
Anyway, yeah, rude.
FDH is catholic and I am a non-practicing Methodist. He and SD go to church just about every other weekend, and I stay home. No problems religion-wise here...so far.
we are both catholic, BM is
we are both catholic, BM is some sort of protestant. fiance did not baptize his kid catholic which really bothers me but he fell away from the church largely due to BM.
he and i both received annulments from our first marriages so we plan to marry in teh catholic church. he has been going regularly with me and we've taken SD a few times. SD defintiely feels "left out" when seh's with her dad's family as she is the only non-catholic. i hope some day she converts, but not my place to get involved.
I'm RC myself. I don't go to
I'm RC myself. I don't go to church anymore and I refused to subject my kids to the Sunday school hell I went through (long story). DW is Protestant but she too is non-practicing.
However my family has religious traditions that stem back for generations. For example, on Good Friday, we don't eat meat. DW asked why since there is nothing in the bible that stipulated that we are not supposed to eat meat on Good Friday. I explained to her the reason and I guess my explanation made sense because she has started to not eat meat on Good Friday's either and she wants Bio-son and Bio-daughter to adopt it too. She doesn't force it, but she thinks it's a nice tradition for our family to continue.
DW told SS him that we are not eating meat on Good Fridays. SS wants to do it too (not eat meat), but the thing is, SS is not with us on Good Fridays, so I wondering how well that went...
BM has decided that she is
BM has decided that she is going to be Jewish, and that SD9 will be, too. I am atheist and SO is agnostic. We had SD last week and BM texted SO, "SD is not to eat any leavened break this week because of Passover." Um, excuse me? We don't make rules for each other's houses! Can you imagine if we told her when she had SD, "SD is not to watch TV this week due to bad grades." Please. Especially not when your "religion" is for show, you pick and choose which mandates to follow, and you NEVER go to synagogue.
When BM spoke to SD on the phone after SO told her off, BM told SD not to eat leavened bread, so SD came downstairs and told us she wouldn't eat leavened bread. We (no, I!!) had already done the grocery shopping for the week (and maxed out the grocery budget), so SO told her that all the stuff we'd just bought was basically off-limits and we weren't sure what she'd eat for lunch the next day (picky child only eats about 4 things, 2 of which are PB&J sandwiches and peanut butter crackers). She opted to eat whatever the heck she wanted. So much for being Jewish--she's 9!
If SD really insists on something one day, SO will respect it, but for now it's all pressure from BM and it's bull. Normally SO and BM arrange for SD to be with her mother on Jewish holidays so we usually don't have to deal with it.
DH was born Catholic, but he
DH was born Catholic, but he and his family are kinda non practicing. I say 'kinda' because all of the kids go to catholic school and observe communion, confirmation, etc.. but no one does Sunday church.
I'm non-religious, organized religion skeeves me out, but I guess if I needed to label it, my religion would be Tolerance. I'm good with whatever you practice, but leave me out of it.
Now, BM is catholic and has married a Muslim, who does practice. They 'married' in a mosque...*cough cough* bullshit. SD tells us about the no pork, no alcohol rules in the house now. (one of my parents is non practicing Muslim, so I know the rules) They have 2 kids together.
All of these religions ask a certain humility and piousness, so I find them all (BM and her baby daddy) insanely hypocritical, but whatevs.
We practice the holidays, Christmas, Easter etc as family and friend togetherness, not the religious aspect.
Our wedding was non-denominational as we were looking at combining 3 religions, none of which any of us practice. We did however celebrate heritage and cultural elements.
She is probably following
She is probably following Lego Bible Sories (I'm not kidding, Google it!). They are pretty accurate though. Even the one where God jumps out of nowhere to wrestle Jacob.
oh those are great. I
oh those are great. I particularly like the holy ghost and the nude Jesus striding forth.
I dunno... I was taught that
I dunno... I was taught that it is polite to recognize the religious hsbits/beliefs of those visiting your home. For example, I would never serve ham if someone who was Jewish was visiting. I would not serve meat on a Friday during Lent if I had someone I knew was Catholic at dinner. It's known as common courtesy.
During Passover? I would do my best to avoid leavened products (or at least eat them in a non-flaunting manner). Andmake sure a Jeeish child ha access to unleavened products such as matzoh (not mazzo, btw).
Her father should ghave taken you both to task - her for being rude. You for being insensitive.
I'm fine with people
I'm fine with people observing the rituals and customs of their own religions, but to expect OP to not eat pancakes because the stepkid had a problem with it? That's part of religious tolerance that the kid needs to start learning now. Okay, skid, don't eat pancakes if you don't want to, but don't expect ME to stop eating them during a particular time of the year because YOUR religion doesn't think it's right.
I don't think the OP was being insensitive. Just underscoring the fact that she can eat whatever SHE is okay with. Again, if the kid doesn't want to eat stuff like that during their religious holiday, then the kid can just not eat it. Doesn't give him/her the right to lecture other people about it.
I stand quietly while SS8 says his prayer before every meal that the skids have with us, but if someone expected me to lead the prayer, or even say it out loud along with SS8, I'd refuse (politely, but I'd still refuse) because I'm not a Christian. Expecting the OP to not eat pancakes or order more simply because someone else had a problem with it isn't really fair or right, in my opinion.
It is not reasonable - imo -
It is not reasonable - imo - to expect a child (and we ARE talking about a child) to understand those nuances. An adult should be better able to deal with it, but that doesn't mean it isn't rude to ignore their dietary needs. When I hsve a vegetarian/vegan for dinner? I make a point to cook with an eye to their preferences. It is not that hard.
When I was in college, I observed Orthodox Lent to a T. No animal products for seven weeks. My ex (who I was dating at the time) thought it was okay to eat a steak in front of me. And then laugh about it. Ya know - it wasn't okay. It was rude.
But hey - JMO.
If the OP had forced the kid
If the OP had forced the kid to eat the pancake, then yeah, I'd have a problem, but she didn't do that as far as I can tell. The KID was telling the OP that what she was doing was wrong. Nobody made the kid eat the pancakes, so I don't see a problem with OP eating them if it's okay with her.
I don't get in anybody's face about my religious beliefs (or lack thereof) and then expect others to change their own beliefs or habits because they don't jive with my own, and I don't appreciate it when anybody gets in MY face about it, either.
The way I see it, other people can do their thing, and I'll do my thing.
As for the vegetarian, of course I'd have food prepared that they could eat. Yummy food at that. But don't expect me to just sit there eating rabbit food because the vegetarian wants to. I need meat, dammit!
This little girl is already
This little girl is already judging others - not very 'religious' behavior if you ask me.
Seems to fall right in line
Seems to fall right in line with a lot of the "religious" people I've run across in my life...Not all, certainly, but quite a few.
"SD, I hope your mother is
"SD, I hope your mother is more concerned about the fact that you are a presumptuous young lady that feels free to correct adults, despite the fact that the adult you just corrected does not share in your religious beliefs. It's none of your business what I eat or don't eat, and how I choose to observe my faith. I hope at some point someone takes the time to teach you appropriate table manners when you are taken out to eat."
What a brat.
Good. Tell your mom. Tell her how rude you are, too. It won't be hard to guess where you learned it.
DH is (non-practicing)
DH is (non-practicing) Catholic, BM is Wiccan, and I'm a devout atheist. (Yes. Devout. I am not even remotely agnostic. I have been in a metaphorical foxhole and it didn't change my beliefs in the slightest.) The skids are... hell if I know. Pagan? The oldest is having a pagan wedding ceremony at least, although I've never heard of them practicing anything at all.
SD probably just really wanted your waffle. You might (if you're so inclined) use it as an opportunity to talk to her about how she expresses herself. "SD, other people have different beliefs, and it is not OK for you to try to force your beliefs on others. What's going on here? Are you angry because you want a waffle too? Because you're concerned about my spiritual well being? How might you have expressed that better?" Better yet, Dh should have that conversation with her. You just enjoy your waffle!
"SD probably just really
"SD probably just really wanted your waffle" LOL! I think you nailed it!
Agreed!!! ^^^^ I absolutely
Agreed!!! ^^^^
I absolutely will cater to someone in my home who has a religious belief/practice/need. That said, if you are a non alcohol drinker, am I to abstain because of you? What I have done in the past is make sure I have non-alcoholic options. Same for vegetarians.
A family member is not allowed pork, so I do make sure the one in 10yrs she has been here, that I do not make anything pork related.
Common courtesy is one thing.
A 13yr old turning up her nose because there is Chardonnay in my fridge needs a slap. Particularly since she 'drinks the blood of christ'.
In our house DH is agnostic
In our house DH is agnostic and I am a non-practicing catholic. BM is an atheist.
We have SD11 every weekend & most of the summer. We celebrate the holidays (Easter, Christmas... Etc) with her. Since we have SD most of the summer- she (SD) asks if she can go to bible school at her grandmas church (some of SDs friends that live near grandma go to the same one). DH and I have no problem with it since it is during our time (and grandma can take her since we both work). but when BM first found out she was livid and said to SD (in front of DH and I) something to the extent that she (BM) was god in her house... Lol
(SD still insisted on going to bible school, and still does, despite what her BM said)