It is so hard to just not yell!
So today SS10 and I are heading out and I ask did he get his snack he said yes. Long story short no he didn't I grabbed no big. I realized the snack bowl has not gotten smaller lately. I asked if he still was grabbing his snacks and he said yes and turn out no and he had been lying to me about it lately. Why I am not sure I asked he said he was afraid he would get in trouble if he told me he did not grab his snack. So I said well you have been lying to me lately so no tv and video games tonight. This one the day when his recent punishment was finally getting lifted. We are still lifting it as of tomorrow.
Anyway so I have now been sitting on this, this morning. I am thinking yes I am harsh and yes we are strict I know all this. He said that I am the scariest person he knows. Yet he still tells me a lot of stuff and comes to me a lot for things. Not sure it is totally I am scary.
I wonder if he is just not understanding getting in trouble. He thinks he will get in trouble for like everything yet we do not punish for every little thing in our home. I wonder if he is just making the connection between what he does has actual consequences. Granite he has always lied even before I came around. The in-laws use to joke about it and I know he has lied to other adults besides me and his dad recently. He just tells them what they want to hear.
He is that afraid of disappointing people and just wants to appease them. Or does he really not get actions and consequences. This would be due to the fact he never had them before living in our home. Yes he would get his tablet taken away for the week or weekend but oh wait he would then get to go to his aunts and play on her phone or he ipad. Nope no real punishment. He learned to manipulate and lie with all of them as well. Yes things have gotten better since the beginning. I still have my days where I am like why could not 4 grown adults communicate with one another and see what was happening and nip it in the butt. Now I wonder if SS will ever really understand that lying does not get you anywhere and when you talk back, and give attitude, and disrespect your parents/adults to their faces there will be consequences.
Before anyone goes on about counseling he is going next week. For SS to really think we are that mean and that scary he has to tell these little white lies is to me crazy but I can get it if a kid has never really experienced any real consequences for the first 8 years of his life. My Husband and I can not get through to him so we finally are going another route. If this lying thing was new and not happening before we all moved in I would be more likely to accept that we are scary but this has been going on longer than he has known me.
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It sort of sounds like SS is
It sort of sounds like SS is never sure what will or won't get him in trouble. He was so concentrated on fear of getting in trouble for not taking his snack and instead got in trouble for lying about whether or not he took his snack. He probably feels like he is darned if he does and darned if he doesn't. Are the house rules consistent and does he understand them?
It is clear in our home you
It is clear in our home you lye you get in trouble. We are always consistent on that. He forgot his homework once and I gave a stern warning but emailed the teacher and got the assignment for him. It was is first time.
We do not punish for forgetting stuff in our home. Not really sure why he felt he would get in trouble. He has asked me multiple times before to grab his snack and I just do it and get out the door. Blows my mind.
Does DH actually expect him
Does DH actually expect him to follow the rules when you're not around?
This is why I've stopped enforcing the majority of rules in my house when they don't impact me/my household. I noticed SD was acting like a timid, scared dog around me. For example, I would come downstairs and there'd be a plate of half-finished food on the table and she'd be sitting on the floor playing than she would run over all afraid and clean up her mess. I hated feeling like this big scary monster in my own house. I realized eventually that DH doesn't remind her to wash her hands/clean her plate after she eats.
He doesn't do it because he doesn't care if she follows the rules, he has ADD and doesn't notice. But I was the ONLY person in her life being consistent with rules... And they're simple rules. Wash your hands/clear your plate when you're done eating. Pick up your toys at the end of the day. Take your clothes out of the bathroom after you shower. Don't try to grab chocolate/treats if you threw out your lunch/dinner. Little things that should be expected. But yet I was turned into this scary monster in her mind because I was the only person who cared about them.
This really started affecting me, like seriously affecting me, because she made me look abusive. When we were around family or friends, she would ask me all timidly if she could eat a treat someone handed her or ask me all timidly if she could play with her brother. Little, strange things that made me look terrible. Like yeah, of course, it's not like I would ever disallow those things? I just expect you to wash your hands after eating/before playing? And not eat treats after throwing out an entire meal?
DH enforces the rules in our
DH enforces the rules in our home. Clear your plate and wash you hands before dinner. SS does the same thing with me always asking my permission for stuff, for everything but he does this with DH when I am not around. He is worse with me but it has been like that since day one of all of living together.
He is getting better when we are around people not asking me for every little thing because DH and I both let things go more around people. We also lay out the rules and try to make it very clear what we expect from his behavior before we go places. He does not run from me or hide from me. Hell he clings to me like crazy at times. I am home and I go in the bedroom he follows, he asks me to play outside with him, at bedtime he grips so tight and I have to be the last one to leave the room.
In my mind if I am as scary as he says I am why all the other stuff. I am not sure if he even knows what he is talking about or just says things at times so I stop talking to him. He is known to do that .
I will add, it's funny to me
I will add, it's funny to me because I know DH's family gets the wrong idea of me because of SD's little timid act with me. But they all refer to her as the "best behaved kid" in the family - they praise how great her manners are, the fact that she doesn't make messes/bug their pets, etc. and how great of a guest she is at their homes. Yet they fail to realize it's the big bad stepmom who is to thank for that. It's my small, simple, common-sense rules that she's terrified of that make her such a great kid. But whatever. I've just really stepped back and stopped caring. As a result, her room is a pigstye, her clothes/toys are everywhere, and it's not my problem.
Not sure why he was already punished
Ash, just wondering if the punishments are always the same? Like, take away tablet for everything? The punishment should fit the crime, imo. As in, if you lie to me, I won’t believe you for a while. I’m not going to take away the tv or the tablet... maybe try making it a point to question his next ten or so actions until it drives the point home. It’s adult-training, because that’s what you’d do if an adult lied to you, but you just add in a little theatrics so that the kid understands the actual consequences of lying.
Youre doing a good job, btw... it sounds like you care about him a lot, and he’s lucky to have you help guide him.
Yeah that didnt work we tried
Yeah that didnt work we tried that at first not believing him and he still continued to lie. We stuck to it.
What's up with the snacks? A
What's up with the snacks? A natural consequences of not taking a snack is that he will be hungry. So stop reminding him (but first find out why he won't take them, does he not like them?) and let him be hungry if he forgets.
I agree. It was the lying
I agree. It was the lying that got him in trouble. If he said I dont want one ok. If he forgot and went hungry ok. The lying about it is what the issue was.
Yeah not sure about
Yeah not sure about punishment for not taking a snack? Why? If he doesn't have a snack then he might be hungry. No harm, no foul. Eventually the light bulb will turn on and he'll start taking snacks. I understand that he lied which, in itself, is wrong. However, you are pressuring him to eat food, which can cause issues in having a healthy relationship with food.
Pick your battles. If he's eating breakfast, lunch and supper than there isn't an actual problem. Save grounding for big stuff like not doing homework or having a rotten attitude or talking back. Not eating the apple, banana or granola bar is just not a crime. I don't get it.
I could care less if he does
I could care less if he does not have a snack. That does not bother me let him go hungry while his classmates are eating in front of him.
I didnt ask everyday about the snack just here and there when we were rushing out the door. I know it is easy to forget so I would ask. He lied multiple times it turns out and that is what he got in trouble for the lying and we made that very clear. It was never about the food.
Does he lie about other, more
Does he lie about other, more important things? Or is he just caught up in this whole "I don't want a snack but I thinks she wants me to take one what should I do? I'll lie!" loop
A certain amount of lying is normal for everyone. But my SS started lying and still lies at 19, about everything, so I do get your concern. But punishing him for lying about silly things like whether he took his snack or not will likely only make him lie MORE, so he can avoid the punishment.
Just say "Would you like a
Just say "Would you like a snack today?" Solved. Really too much over snacks.